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 Naja melanoleuca mating habit?

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Mario Lutz
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PostSubject: Naja melanoleuca mating habit?   Naja melanoleuca mating habit? Icon_minitimeSat 12 Apr - 13:54
i keep my adult Naja melanoleuca pair whole year around together, same as all of my cobras!
after the male shed his skin, i observed the female today trying to stimulate the male to breed here.

can everybody tell me more about their mating behavior? who is the one starting the "ceremony"?
how long did it take them from the first sign till finally they will copulate?


what do you feed the babies? anything else differs from other Naja species?



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Randy Ciuros
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PostSubject: Re: Naja melanoleuca mating habit?   Naja melanoleuca mating habit? Icon_minitimeFri 18 Apr - 4:11
I haven't bred this species yet, and come to think of it, I don't remember seeing CB Forest Cobra hatchlings for sale but once, maybe twice here in the USA.
Here's a couple pics of the male I just picked up. He is right at 6' long, and as you can see, he is a show off. Not too bad of an attitude. This is the 4th Forest Cobra I've had and none had the attitudes you normally hear about. One of them was completely speckled and 8' long. He is the 3rd pic.

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PostSubject: Re: Naja melanoleuca mating habit?   Naja melanoleuca mating habit? Icon_minitimeFri 18 Apr - 8:12
hi Randy,

thats one beautiful N.melanoleuca you got your self there!
in my opinion one of the most awesome elapid members.
Mambas, Taipans, Forest cobras and King Cobras are the top of the mountain!

my male has a bit of an attitude but nothing you cant handle, i just love them. snakes with character!

thanks for the picture!

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this is my female, check the tummy (happy baby boom here?!)



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PostSubject: Re: Naja melanoleuca mating habit?   Naja melanoleuca mating habit? Icon_minitimeFri 18 Apr - 9:02
She's a Beauty, Mario. Can't wait to see the babies. I don't know what problem could arise once the babies hatch as far as getting them to eat, as I have not hatched out any African Cobras, yet. My N. nivea is gravid now, so it won't be long. I've had African Cobra babies before, but they had all eaten a time or two before i got them. But, I'm sure with all the good people here we can come up with some ideas of things to try.
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PostSubject: Re: Naja melanoleuca mating habit?   Naja melanoleuca mating habit? Icon_minitimeFri 18 Apr - 11:32
i am very sure about this Randy.
both Peter´s are pretty much experienced in breeding cobras and such.

Peter Zürcher is breeding Naja nivea for quite some time now. he might be able to give you a hint how to get them started and if there are somethings to watch about.

i am not sure if the guys breeds Naja melanoleuca, but it should not be a bit problem, as they have a wide variety of food we can work with.

dont know what happen this year here, it seem to me all our adult snakes are in deep love to each other, we breed almost everything here right now, eggs, gravid females or babies from some species are already hatched/born. somethings about the climate change?

lets see...



Thanks and ill cross my fingers for your Naja nivea!


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Gavin Carpenter
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PostSubject: Re: Naja melanoleuca mating habit?   Naja melanoleuca mating habit? Icon_minitimeFri 18 Apr - 13:00
Most baby South African N. Melanoleuca (subvulva) wont take mice staright off. They start off on toads/frogs and geckoes. I am not sure about the ones further north like you have as I have never bred them. Once they have started on mice they never look back and grow unbelievably fast!!
@Randy, thats great news on the Nivea! Those babies normally start off on pinks/fuzzies without too many problems, but any that are problems will always eat geckoes!
Do you have pics of your adults?? They are so variable!
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PostSubject: Re: Naja melanoleuca mating habit?   Naja melanoleuca mating habit? Icon_minitimeFri 18 Apr - 17:06
Thanks for the info Mario and Gavin.

We have plenty of toads and green tree frogs here as well as anoles and several other lizard species. The State of Florida is great about that. You can find that stuff 10 months of the year where I live. If I drive a few hours south I can find them all year round.

I imported the female N. nivea from a guy in South Africa on 08/28/01. I don't have a real good photo of her, but here's what I have. Her color is off in these pics.

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The male below is a CB 8/05 from the pair of Yellow nivea that Glades had. I got him as a hatchling. He went from a normal yellow hatchling to dark brown and now you can see the brown is breaking up into speckling. He's no where near full grown yet.

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