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Mistacloudstrife
2007-12-17, 04:49
I don't think there's a thread for this game yet.
Dissdia. Basically a Final Fantasy fighting game. Seems like leveling up is somehow involves and it's going to have characters from almost every numbered Final Fantasy game from 1-9.(So far as I know, there might be more)
Here are some screens.
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2386/dissidia582011200709200qp5.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dissidia582011200709200je1.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/769/dissidia582011200709200xq4.jpg
bungoman
2007-12-17, 11:51
I will be getting a PSP for this game (yeah there's other stuff I already want, but this is the justification I need to make the purchase haha).
superfreakgeek
2008-10-09, 01:05
CAN SOME ANSWER ME WHY THE HELL THEY ARE PUTTING FINAL FANTASY Dissidia only for psp and if u don't know what im talking about is a game thats coming out from square where two characters one good one evil from every popular ff is in this game and they fight each other .... and its not even for 360 ... now i don't want to get into that psp are cool dumb argument cause im not saying that they're not... but if they are releasing ff13 for 360 only cause how many that have been sold in the west why not make the game for it. plus a game with that much potential should use a high performance machine to show how badass it really could be.
Yes, I have heard a lot based on this game, and I really want it. It looks amazing and a lot of the most greatest Final Fantasy characters are playable. I just cannot wait to play as Kuja, he was one of my favourites.
I know that Cloud and Squall are playable characters, as are Tidus and Zidane. The opposers are Sephiroth, Ultimicia, Kuja, and I think Jecht is in it too..along with many others. There are some amazing cutscenes on that game of different characters fighting eachother. Watching Squall fighting Sephiroth looks very strange, but at the same time, awesome!
This trailer will amaze you.
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The reason its on psp, is that Squareenix said that they want to make the game a multiplayer game, of 4 players. And psp is the easiest, most common and most suitable platform to support such multiplayer functions and graphics.
The reason FFXIII is on 360, is that microsoft have paid alot to get it there. Versus XIII is still PS3 exclusive, certainly there would be riots if it goes 360.
Edit: I've been waiting for this game for a very long time.
Midorikawa as Furion interests me the most from the trailer lol
Shadow Kira01
2008-10-09, 12:01
Cool! Jecht is in it, hope he will be wielding the same sword as Final Fantasy X. He has the coolest sword in the entire game. I am definitely looking forward to FF Dissidia.
Unfortunately, Zacks, Genesis, and Angeal didn't make it. It would be epic if Zacks and Angeal takes on Genesis and Sephiroth in one battle. Too bad..
Squall > Everyone else. Just throwing that out there.
2H-Dragon
2008-10-10, 10:27
Squall > Everyone else. Just throwing that out there.
QFT
No really Squall>everyone else. Wondering if we have to press r1 everytime Sqaull makes a hit. =o
King Lycan
2008-10-10, 14:22
Squall > Everyone else. Just throwing that out there.
Wrong Vincent Valentine > Everyone :p
Duo Maxwell
2008-10-10, 22:26
Characters confirmed:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g178/warnecruid/2ce3tra.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g178/warnecruid/bhefxh.jpg
Only one 1 main female? Man....
Kana Futayo
2008-10-10, 22:50
Squall > Everyone else.
Emo rating? :D
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Two more months left and I can buy a psp on my own. :smile:
I can't wait for the release this december even if it's japanese. :heh:
MakubeX2
2008-10-10, 22:51
Realistically speaking, people will spam Sephiroth and Cloud online.
And I wouldn't be surprise that Sora will be a unlockable character.
kk2extreme
2008-10-10, 23:13
Jecht > sephiroth, in terms of look :D
what happen to vaan, i guess he doesnt stack up to the other cooler characters :heh:
Vaan isn't manly enough for participating in this epic battle. Well, neither is Ultimecia but she makes up for it.
Wrong Vincent Valentine > Everyone :p
Is Vincent even included in this game of all-stars? No? I wonder why! He may think he's the stuff with his little pistols, but Squall has a gunblade, sir! A GunBlade! Stab you and blow your head off in one stroke! Game, Set, Squall.
Emo rating?
Hey, I can't help Nomura has a weird fetish :(
Characters confirmed:
Not enough female characters indeed.
Well, I would like to say that it's just expected of Nomura, but the reason behind this seems to be due to Dissidia's character list mainly having main protagonists/main antagonists from certain FF games.
In that case, can I assume that's Terra over there?
In that case, can I assume that's Terra over there?
Yup, but not with green hair ;_;
tehjoker
2008-10-11, 09:12
Unfortunately, Zacks, Genesis, and Angeal didn't make it.
How do you spell SECRET CHARACTERS?
Duo Maxwell
2008-10-11, 13:09
How do you spell SECRET CHARACTERS?
I only know how to spell NO SECRET CHARACTERS.
tehjoker
2008-10-11, 13:18
It is possible because of Square beat-up games(like Ehregeiz) having secret characters.
MakubeX2
2008-10-11, 19:23
We do not want FF7 characters to dominate this game now, do we ?
The only unlockable secret character I can forsee is Sora.
We do not want FF7 characters to dominate this game now, do we ?
The only unlockable secret character I can forsee is Sora.
Sora and Ansem as unlockable characters? That would be nice. :)
tehjoker
2008-10-12, 09:50
Sora and Ansem as unlockable characters? That would be nice
Riku or Axel or Roxas will be alot better.
Hellbore
2008-10-12, 21:41
Except there not the main characters (kinda)
tehjoker
2008-10-13, 09:41
That's okay.
They're secret characters after all.
Kuja is my only concern. I always admired Kuja, and now I have the chance to CONTROL him!? I could not be more pleased. What is more is that Zidane is voiced by the same woman in which provided the voice for Edward Elric in the Japanese version of Fullmetal Alchemist, which I knew straight away when I heard it. I had to research it only to find that I was indeed correct. Kuja's voice also sounds brilliant. Just what I expected it to sound like, as it is so fitting for his character.
I cannot wait to play this game, preferably in Japanese dialogue.
Knowledge Seeker
2008-10-18, 18:08
I bought a PSP the other day for this, and Star Ocean (which is coming Oct 21st).
I see a lot of talk about secret characters here, I just hope that Zack Fair is one of them. The man did have his own game. =P But yeah, I'm not too picky, any secret characters are fine.
Paku Romi's voice is indeed pleasant to hear. She's excellent at voicing spirited youth. Thus, she's a great pick for Zidane.
tehjoker
2008-10-19, 08:20
We also get to play as Jecht.
Man, he's got a kickass sword that can pwn Tidus every second.
There's going to be FFXI and FFXII stuff in the game.
It well could be in the way of secret characters, say Ashe, Prishe, Shadow Lord, etc. Or in the way that has already been shown:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x305/Andres2Tiger/ff/dissidia_oct18_screen3.jpg
Carby from FFXI.
Nomura has said as well that there's going to be lots of secret stuff, so characters from the other 2 games (or any Nomura games like KH or SH) aren't too far off.
A safer bet would be the inclusion of other characters from I to X, and that's well they could include all the female characters we are missing on: Rosa, Celes, Garnet, Rikku, etc.
Justice Knight
2008-10-20, 08:38
Characters confirmed:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g178/warnecruid/2ce3tra.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g178/warnecruid/bhefxh.jpg
Only one 1 main female? Man....
do you know the names of chars and where they come from? i only can recognize sephy lol
Not in the same order of the picture:
Final Fantasy: Warrior of Light, Garland
Final Fantasy II: Firion, Emperor
Final Fantasy III: Onion Knight, Cloud of Darkness
Final Fantasy IV: Cecil Harvey, Golbez
Final Fantasy V: Bartz Klauser, Exdeath
Final Fantasy VI: Terra Branford, Kefka Palazzo
Final Fantasy VII: Cloud Strife, Sephiroth
Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Leonhart, Ultimecia
Final Fantasy IX: Zidane Tribal, Kuja
Final Fantasy X: Tidus, Jecht
5 min trailer that was shown in the DKS3713 party a few months ago, but this time DVD quality, and it does looks much more sharper.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-bob4HvpZG8
I have to say the production values of this game, specially for VA are super awesome. I'm going to import this game just because I know SE is going to screw us over with english only audio for western releases :(
tehjoker
2008-10-21, 10:28
Why does Cloud & Squall look a lot like each other.
tehjoker
2008-10-21, 12:54
http://i38.tinypic.com/2a5dkas.png
Zidane looks awesome in this game, as do many others.
I also noticed that, the lovely Terra, is blonde now. I shall not complain, she still looks good.
(Also, in that previous image above, the person wrote "Zidane" twice, instead of inserting Kuja's name beneath his image)
MakubeX2
2008-10-21, 18:10
One wonder, if Cecil has his Dark Knight incarnation selectable in the game, does Terra/Tina have her alternate Esper form playable ? Or is that only avaliable as a desperate move ?
Kana Futayo
2008-10-21, 23:39
One wonder, if Cecil has his Dark Knight incarnation selectable in the game, does Terra/Tina have her alternate Esper form playable ? Or is that only avaliable as a desperate move ?
If that would happen then it's gonna be limited for a few seconds or attacks. Esper Terra is scary. :uhoh:
In the trailers, Squall can transform/summon his Revolver into Lionheart.
I wonder if its a common ability for all characters. Like maybe Cloud can transform Buster Sword into Ultima Weapon.
My favourite of the lineup seems to be Terra, always liked her and actually she looks sexier now. I'll probably have her as my main.
Why aren't they calling 'Onion Knight', 'Luneth'?
carlyse_09
2008-10-22, 04:43
I cant forget the final fantasy characters...........The characters was fun to see....
I also noticed that, the lovely Terra, is blonde now. I shall not complain, she still looks good.
Actually, she is blond in the character art, her sprite just has the teal hair.
Same_Shark
2008-10-22, 07:06
One wonder, if Cecil has his Dark Knight incarnation selectable in the game, does Terra/Tina have her alternate Esper form playable ? Or is that only avaliable as a desperate move ?Yes, Cecil's Dark Knight form is an alternate costume.
Why aren't they calling 'Onion Knight', 'Luneth'?Luneth is also an alternate costume for Onion Knight.
Yes, Cecil's Dark Knight form is an alternate costume.
Luneth is also an alternate costume for Onion Knight.Ah I see, that's very nice. If a game is produced to be fanservice, its always best to go all the way down to even costumes.
I guess we can expect Terra in esper form, much like Zidane and Kuja is having their Trance modes.
Same_Shark
2008-10-22, 07:16
I'm ready for the Squre Enix theme song announcements! I hope Dissidia gets a theme song!
MakubeX2
2008-10-22, 09:04
Yes, Cecil's Dark Knight form is an alternate costume.
Not just alternate costume, totally different characters there. It will not just be a Dark Knight without that signature Ankoku/Darkness move. And I don't that Paladin Cecil comes equip with that.
Luneth is also an alternate costume for Onion Knight.
In the original FFIII the characters didn't had names, but the heroes started off with Onion Kid/Knight as their job class. It is also probably the strongest job in FF3. But in FFD the FF3 character can change its job into Ninja and Sage as well, during fights.
I'm ready for the Squre Enix theme song announcements! I hope Dissidia gets a theme song!
I think that Dissidia does have a theme tune. I assume it is the song in the trailer when all the characters are talking to eachother in that scene somewhere in the middle of the one I posted on page 1.
Loving Kefka :D wanna hear his laugh
Just saw the trailer on the 2nd page, and it really does look awesome!!! It would have to be as grand as SSB 64/Melee/Brawl because of the lineup here. I just hope it plays as good as it looks >.>.
Any videos with Terra? I haven't seen any yet :(.
I know the one thing I'm going to enjoy most is killing Kefka again. Wiping that demonic smile off of his face is one of the greatest treasures you could hope for in an FF game.
tehjoker
2008-10-24, 22:21
Any videos with Terra?
none for the moment
Same_Shark
2008-10-28, 10:21
none for the moment
They probably won't be made public until Jump Festa, I think?
They probably won't be made public until Jump Festa, I think?
You think?
Dissidia release date: December 18.
Jump Festa date: December 20-21.
Anyway, Dissidia Trading Arts Vol 1 figures announced:
http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages3/user/hobby/itbig/10079663a6.jpg
http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages3/user/hobby/itbig/10079663a.jpg
http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages3/user/hobby/itbig/10079663a2.jpg
http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages3/user/hobby/itbig/10079663a3.jpg
http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages3/user/hobby/itbig/10079663a4.jpg
http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages3/user/hobby/itbig/10079663a5.jpg
Release Date : Early Feb
Regular Price : 5,280 yen
Link (http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10079663)
LightningZERO
2008-10-29, 02:09
Seems to be a fun game, with all these characters.
And I'm gonna get that Trading Arts set!
Kefka and Terra featured on this week's Famitsu.
Link (http://img251.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53646_dff1_122_534lo.jpg&loc=loc534)
I really like Terra in Trance mode :D
Yea, they're calling Esper form, Trance mode.
And Terra's looking very nice.
Xellos-_^
2008-10-29, 19:27
Characters confirmed:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g178/warnecruid/2ce3tra.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g178/warnecruid/bhefxh.jpg
Only one 1 main female? Man....
where is Celes? This is a outrage :frustrated:
kenjiharima
2008-10-31, 07:28
Is Cecil the only one with the alternate costume?
Also wish they add Vincent, Tifa, Yuffie, Kane,Sabin,Locke,Edgar and the other popular FF characters here.
Sora a secret...hmm...I leave him for KH series this is where the big boys play.
HayashiTakara
2008-10-31, 07:42
where is Celes? This is a outrage :frustrated:
I agree with you there...
But, it doesn't matter, this game is gonna fail hard anyway. The last fighting game Square tried to make failed harder than Yaoi. :heh:
kenjiharima
2008-10-31, 08:02
I liked Ehrgiez. But I had more fun playing the FF7 and the 2 extra's Kouji and Claire rather than the REAL cast of Futuristic tekken characters.
I found the Dissidia game theme song if anyone is interested in listening to it.
http://www.fictionjunction.be/2007/05/16/final-fantasy-dissidia-overture/
I also love some of the artwork that they have produced for the game, such as the image of all of the ten heroes together, and all of the ten villains together. They look amazing.
(Terra is still really, really, really, really pretty I see. She looks so good!)
FlareKnight
2008-10-31, 14:57
I agree with you there...
But, it doesn't matter, this game is gonna fail hard anyway. The last fighting game Square tried to make failed harder than Yaoi. :heh:I lost interest in it anyways when I heard the characters that weren't making it. Know that with how many series they are trying to cover they couldn't get all of the good ones. But still with characters like Locke and Celes missing...yeah lack of excitement there.
Iron Maw
2008-10-31, 17:04
/me prays for Celes.
where is Celes? This is a outrage :frustrated:
It's 10 Heros vs. 10 Villains, so yeah she not going to be there. There likely be sercet characters, but they probably be from FFXI and XII. If there she will should definitely get in though.
I agree with you there...
But, it doesn't matter, this game is gonna fail hard anyway. The last fighting game Square tried to make failed harder than Yaoi. :heh:
Aside from Nomura (who only did Character Designs), nobody on the dev team has worked on Ehrgeiz, in fact SE didn't even develop the game. The Demos have gotten great impressions and fight systems seems likes going have quite a bit depth:
Each character, regardless of their affiliation, will have two kinds of attacks. The first one is a weak attack (used by hitting the circle button) that doesn't do physical damage, but strips away an opponent's Brave Points. These points are a multi-purpose feature that are useful for numerous reasons. The first is that they protect your characters from being physically damaged – damage is soaked up by any points you have before you start to lose health, extending the amount of time you can fight and injure your opponents. Another key point with Brave Points is that they are used to trigger a number of damaging strikes. Depending on the character you have, you can pull off a variety of strikes, including powerful homing blasts and melee attacks. Each character has their own unique attacks, so you'll find strikes from TIdus, for example, that will use a blitzball, while Garland will use a giant lance during his strikes.
However, you don't have to expect that you're trapped in a 2D fighting arena. Dissidia allows for complete freedom of movement for all characters. This means that you can literally run along walls and even perform multiple jumps and attacks to perpetually float in mid air. These acrobatic maneuvers provide completely new moves and attacks as well. Don't think that you're constantly trading blows, however. Players will be able to perform guards, dodges, counters and even breaks to interrupt attacks and perform strikes of their own. This means that while you can pick up the game and easily button mash your way to victory now and then, you'll need to master the timing of certain moves to truly be effective.
Players will also find that as they perform strikes and wear down their opponents, they'll build up what's known as an EX Gauge, or find items known as an EX core scattered around each environment. By collecting these objects and topping out the gauge, players can hit the R button and Square, transforming their character into a new kind of warrior. We were told that the Onion Knight will specifically change job classes to a hardier fighter, but every character has a transformational stage with this gauge. Of course, this bestows completely new abilities as well.
The rest of Hands-On here:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/896/896064p1.html
Gameplay Video:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38926.html
I agree with you there...
But, it doesn't matter, this game is gonna fail hard anyway. The last fighting game Square tried to make failed harder than Yaoi. :heh:
Ehrgeiz was not developed by Squaresoft. Where are you coming from with your comparision?
If anything SE or Square have never made a fighting game. Dream Factory did the awful Ehrgeiz, they did the awesome Tobals too, but that's another matter and I don't really want to come into what went wrong from Tobal to that.
This is the first game developed internally by SE, it is directed by Takeshi Arakawa,which might not have any experience at all on fighting games, but this is not your typical fighting game.
Producer is Tetsuya Nomura, probably the person with the biggest momentum inside SE, and he certainly is not going to let this project take his spotlight out.
Specially since a bad Dissidia could pretty much mean scrapping of Versus, or a new director reassigned to it, and same for Kingdom Hearts 3.
Dissidia is the biggest game from the Square side in SE for this fiscal year. This is not some cheap arcade spinoff game handled by a third party developer.
Get your points straight, because you "fail hard".
Edit: beaten by Iron Maw :heh:
Edit 2: and Amray, thanks for the song, it is a great theme.
Kaioshin Sama
2008-11-01, 00:01
Ehrgeiz was not developed by Squaresoft. Where are you coming from with your comparision?
If anything SE or Square have never made a fighting game. Dream Factory did the awful Ehrgeiz, they did the awesome Tobals too, but that's another matter and I don't really want to come into what went wrong from Tobal to that.
This is the first game developed internally by SE, it is directed by Takeshi Arakawa,which might not have any experience at all on fighting games, but this is not your typical fighting game.
Producer is Tetsuya Nomura, probably the person with the biggest momentum inside SE, and he certainly is not going to let this project take his spotlight out.
Specially since a bad Dissidia could pretty much mean scrapping of Versus, or a new director reassigned to it, and same for Kingdom Hearts 3.
Dissidia is the biggest game from the Square side in SE for this fiscal year. This is not some cheap arcade spinoff game handled by a third party developer.
Get your points straight, because you "fail hard".
Edit: beaten by Iron Maw :heh:
Edit 2: and Amray, thanks for the song, it is a great theme.
You know, a part of me does hope that Dissidia can somehow fail from a financial standpoint so that Nomura gets his talentless ass bumped back down to character design where he can do far less damage and draw Gackt all he wants.
You know, a part of me does hope that Dissidia can somehow fail from a financial standpoint so that Nomura gets his talentless ass bumped back down to character design where he can do far less damage and draw Gackt all he wants.
I actually hate Nomura drawings more than what I hate Kingdom Hearts overall.
But I do agree with you that Nomura shouldn't be getting so much attention. Although having his designs in 10 games at a time is worst than having in charge of full games.
At least when the FNC games come and go, it will be the time for FFXIV so there will be no more Kitase (thus Nomura) for a while and Ito will be on charge. Ito isn't a fan of Nomura so that's good.
We should have Nomura doing KH3 by the time, and maybe Dissidia 2 with a second cast of characters :heh:
Iron Maw
2008-11-02, 03:25
You know, a part of me does hope that Dissidia can somehow fail from a financial standpoint so that Nomura gets his talentless ass bumped back down to character design where he can do far less damage and draw Gackt all he wants.
Even if it Dissida bombed, that wouldn't happen. Nomura has been one of biggest creative forces in SE since FFV. He's gotten his postition due to his hard work and acknowlegdement of Sakaguchi and Kitase. If he didn't have any talent he wouldn't be were he is today. Even if you don't like his work there many that do.
I actually hate Nomura drawings more than what I hate Kingdom Hearts overall.
But I do agree with you that Nomura shouldn't be getting so much attention. Although having his designs in 10 games at a time is worst than having in charge of full games.
Nomura Producer level employee at SE like Kitase, Kawazu, Tanaka, are and Sakaguchi, Matsuno were. Of course he's going to get a lot of attention since he's created many of SE projects (TWENTY, KH, Dissida, etc) and is very active.
BTW, SE's Management doesn't decide if Nomura is designing characters for the next FF game, that's what the Director, or Producer on that project does, this also goes for any of their SE's projects.
At least when the FNC games come and go, it will be the time for FFXIV so there will be no more Kitase (thus Nomura) for a while and Ito will be on charge. Ito isn't a fan of Nomura so that's good.
1.) Nobody knows who's going be working on FFXIV and it wouldn't matter if Kitase was on the project or, not as he hasn't play much of role in FF since FFVIII (and even in that game he took a backseat despite being the Director). Besides Nomura isn't very active on FF anymore unlike with FFV-VIII and wants to do his own thing.
2.) Where did you hear that about Ito? Are saying that it because Nomura didn't work on FFIX?
We should have Nomura doing KH3 by the time, and maybe Dissidia 2 with a second cast of characters :heh:
If anyone is going be doing the next game it will be him, Dissida like KH and TWENTY are his brainchilds, and him being on the next project wouldn't stop new characters from appearing anyway.
I never really understood the hate for Nomura. The way I see it, its just this minority of haters that will always be there if things get popular and of course Kaioshin will definitely be there. He only supports underdogs and things that people don't make popular, right? Yes.
The thing is Nomura's work appeal to the masses and its because of his designs. Its safe to say there are more people who likes his work that does who do not and that's what matters.
And for Kaioshin, I'll just pull in Code Geass as an example again. Despite the hate for it, well more than 70% rates the show 9 or 10/10. Haters are always more likely to voice their 'opinions', but in the end, the silent decision could be something else.
I like the redrawn characters on the picture on the previous page, especially Zidane.
Duo Maxwell
2008-11-02, 08:03
I never really understood the hate for Nomura. The way I see it, its just this minority of haters that will always be there if things get popular and of course Kaioshin will definitely be there. He only supports underdogs and things that people don't make popular, right? Yes.
Well, not really true, since you saw him in Code Geass and Gundam 00 thread, right? :p
Some people hate something just because, well, they hate it. And if that's the case, there is nothing I can do. You don't think the internet can change people's opinion, don't you? ;)
I like the redrawn characters on the picture on the previous page, especially Zidane.
Zidane's design looks amazing. He really does look as though he comes from a medievil or Victorian style era, which is what he is supposed to look like.
Well, not really true, since you saw him in Code Geass and Gundam 00 thread, right? :p
Some people hate something just because, well, they hate it. And if that's the case, there is nothing I can do. You don't think the internet can change people's opinion, don't you? ;)No, Kaioshin is a unique case, if I were to describe him, it would need a thread itself, maybe even a subforum lol
Anyway my previous post is directed mostly only at him, he should know what I'm talking about, if not he'll look me up on msn.
But yes, people hate because they just hate it. I used to call this a natural response, or something from the genes, they just have to hate something because their genes say so.
Other than that its a cultural thing, amongst many other factors.
They normally call it their 'opinion', but what I'm pointing out is a possible reason which causes them to have such an opinion, in this case a hate for something that others like.
1.) Nobody knows who's going be working on FFXIV and it wouldn't matter if Kitase was on the project or, not as he hasn't play much of role in FF since FFVIII (and even in that game he took a backseat despite being the Director). Besides Nomura isn't very active on FF anymore unlike with FFV-VIII and wants to do his own thing.
2.) Where did you hear that about Ito? Are saying that it because Nomura didn't work on FFIX?
If anyone is going be doing the next game it will be him, Dissida like KH and TWENTY are his brainchilds, and him being on the next project wouldn't stop new characters from appearing anyway.
I know, that is just a simple assumption. But before descarting it (I'm not telling you to accept it as fact of course) but Ito is the other big guy, together with Kitase.
Do you know that Kitase was the Director for both VII and VIII right? This a little bit of Square story:
After VI, where both Kitase and Ito were co-directors, Kitase was asigned to be the Director for the next game and Ito to work onto the next one.
Due to the huge success of VII, Kitase was given another Director role and Ito's game got pushed back just to keep VII momentum going into VIII, since VIII's style was going to be more similar than what IX was going to be.
The extra development time then allocated to IX, was used to improve the graphics engine, since the game was scheduled for late 98 - early 99.
After this the PS2 came, a new generation and the following game in the series was given to Kitase again, keeping what was Sakaguchi's original plan post-FFVI to have his big boys alternate game releases. X-2 was more the idea of Kitase on expanding the project and not just ending with X, not really Sakaguchi's ideal for the franchise, but around that time (post-Spirits Within), Sakaguchi wasn't in the best position within the company, and so, as we know, he stepped out.
FFXI is a different story, since it was such a big project, it was given to Tanaka and development was pretty much started before both VIII and IX were finished too.
Continuing to XII, there was another big name that had risen up through the PS1 days, this person was Matsuno, after doing such great games (FFT and Vagrant Story), it was decided to give him the next FF (after Kitase's X and Tanaka's XI), but since it was such a bigger project than FFT and VS, Ito was going to be there helping with the design.
We all know what happened then, Matsuno had his problems and left before the project was completed, making Ito to step up a complete it. The International Zodiac version is actually Ito's vision of what XII should have been.
Then the time for XIII came, Kitase is in charge again, however there was another man in the rise, thanks to his previous works as character designer, and his great work with Kingdom Hearts, and the AC movie, then it was decided to step him up and give him a FF game.
But they sure don't want the same that happened to Matsuno, to repeat now with Nomura, of course Nomura has a bigger story with Square/SE than what Matsuno had, so the confidence is bigger.
Another thing is that thanks to the new ideals for Final Fantasy as a franchise (FFX/X-2, Ivalice project, FFVII spin-offs, and now FNC), Nomura could receive his big game, without compromising Kitase's position, since he is the biggest name in SE.
Ok, so after all this, I come back once again to Ito. After XII/Zodiac was finished, he hasn't being revealed to be working on anything at all. This is the key part, and the main "source" of this assumption.
Given the amount of time required to develop a HD game in this generation, it is not hard to assume that FFXIV is already in the the pre-development, or planning stage. They have the people to do it. It is just common sense from a busines and development stand point.
Besides it follows the pattern since the PS1 days, where the next game was already in development before the current one was already released.
FFXIII should be out before the end of FY09 in Japan, Versus will be out by FY10 or early FY11.
After 2012 the current-gen could be over. I don't know what the next-gen will be, but letting XIV slip past the current-gen and SE would have only brought out 2 FF games in the PS3/360 lifetime.
That would be the lowest number of big FF games per platform/generation. 3 on NES/SNES/PS1 (4 if you want to add Tactics), 4 on PS2 and 2 on PS3/360 (not counting XI on 360 since it is basically a PS2 game).
SE won't let this generation go without at least bringing out 3 big FF games (Agito is on the way to be an awesome game, but it will just amount in the same way as Revenant Wings did).
The team of Kitase and Nomura certainly are great to have so many projects around, but there is just not enough time to assume they can pull out XIV as well soon after XIII/Versus are done.
One last thing to add, remakes, FFV and FFVI should be on their way for the following years, thus giving up place to the highly desired (not for me tho) FFVII remake. This one will probably be the next biggest project of Kitase/Nomura after XIII is done (KH3 can still be done within then), because I'm sure Nomura will not let SE give the remake to Matrix, just like it happened with III and IV.
And as much as I love FFVI, and would like to see just a huge remake as VII will probably be, I really doubt Kitase and Ito would do something like that, unfortunately VI suffers from the same fate as Chrono Trigger, being SNES games that the FFVII-hardcore gamers (those that started playing RPGs after FFVII), don't know about them, thus not being as profitable for SE.
Sorry about the derail, and if someone doesn't aggree with me is all good. All these assumptions are just based on history and busines models, I'm no SE-insider, so criticize as much as you want.
Edit: huge post, so I'll add a spoiler tag to shrink the wall-o-text a bit.
Iron Maw
2008-11-02, 16:40
I know, that is just a simple assumption. But before descarting it (I'm not telling you to accept it as fact of course) but Ito is the other big guy, together with Kitase.
Do you know that Kitase was the Director for both VII and VIII right? This a little bit of Square story:
After VI, where both Kitase and Ito were co-directors, Kitase was asigned to be the Director for the next game and Ito to work onto the next one.
Due to the huge success of VII, Kitase was given another Director role and Ito's game got pushed back just to keep VII momentum going into VIII, since VIII's style was going to be more similar than what IX was going to be.
The extra development time then allocated to IX, was used to improve the graphics engine, since the game was scheduled for late 98 - early 99.
After this the PS2 came, a new generation and the following game in the series was given to Kitase again, keeping what was Sakaguchi's original plan post-FFVI to have his big boys alternate game releases. X-2 was more the idea of Kitase on expanding the project and not just ending with X, not really Sakaguchi's ideal for the franchise, but around that time (post-Spirits Within), Sakaguchi wasn't in the best position within the company, and so, as we know, he stepped out.
FFXI is a different story, since it was such a big project, it was given to Tanaka and development was pretty much started before both VIII and IX were finished too.
Continuing to XII, there was another big name that had risen up through the PS1 days, this person was Matsuno, after doing such great games (FFT and Vagrant Story), it was decided to give him the next FF (after Kitase's X and Tanaka's XI), but since it was such a bigger project than FFT and VS, Ito was going to be there helping with the design.
We all know what happened then, Matsuno had his problems and left before the project was completed, making Ito to step up a complete it. The International Zodiac version is actually Ito's vision of what XII should have been.
Then the time for XIII came, Kitase is in charge again, however there was another man in the rise, thanks to his previous works as character designer, and his great work with Kingdom Hearts, and the AC movie, then it was decided to step him up and give him a FF game.
But they sure don't want the same that happened to Matsuno, to repeat now with Nomura, of course Nomura has a bigger story with Square/SE than what Matsuno had, so the confidence is bigger.
Another thing is that thanks to the new ideals for Final Fantasy as a franchise (FFX/X-2, Ivalice project, FFVII spin-offs, and now FNC), Nomura could receive his big game, without compromising Kitase's position, since he is the biggest name in SE.
Yeah, I know about that already. I'm refeing more to a translated bit in FFVIII's Ultimamania back a couple years ago in which Kitase admitted that he did not have as much as influence in FFVIII than his previous works despite being inchange of the overall project.
I don't think that Nomura will have the same issues that Masuno did. For one thing many of projects he's doing now are his ideas and not something SE's Management gave him. Nomura also has had more experience at working big-budget titles thanks his previous works and had a veteran staffer like Sakaguchi there to support him, unlike Matsuno.
Ok, so after all this, I come back once again to Ito. After XII/Zodiac was finished, he hasn't being revealed to be working on anything at all. This is the key part, and the main "source" of this assumption.
Given the amount of time required to develop a HD game in this generation, it is not hard to assume that FFXIV is already in the the pre-development, or planning stage. They have the people to do it. It is just common sense from a busines and development stand point.
I don't necessnary disagree with you, I'm just pointing out that Ito hardly a shoe in for next FF game. I would love to see him do another game in the series, but it's better to wait for more concrete info.
Besides it follows the pattern since the PS1 days, where the next game was already in development before the current one was already released.
The problem is that pattern doesn't really work, especially when extend to this gen; PS1 era, Kitase 2 FF games, Ito 1 FF game; PS2 era, Toriyama 1 FF game (FFX) or, 2 if you count FFX-2, Tanaka 1 FF game (FFXI), Matsuno/Ito (Ito was brought in as sort of backup when Matsuno left) 1 FF game.
The team of Kitase and Nomura certainly are great to have so many projects around, but there is just not enough time to assume they can pull out XIV as well soon after XIII/Versus are done.
I don't think they would be working on FFXIV as you pointed out most FF games are done concurrently.
And as much as I love FFVI, and would like to see just a huge remake as VII will probably be, I really doubt Kitase and Ito would do something like that, unfortunately VI suffers from the same fate as Chrono Trigger, being SNES games that the FFVII-hardcore gamers (those that started playing RPGs after FFVII), don't know about them, thus not being as profitable for SE.
FFVI remake's problem won't be it's popularity as it's plenty popular, but if whether Kitase would take up the director mantle again with Ito to work on it. FFVII faces this issue too.
Sorry about the derail, and if someone doesn't aggree with me is all good. All these assumptions are just based on history and busines models, I'm no SE-insider, so criticize as much as you want.
No problem, I added a bit to the off-topicness anyway.
The problem is that pattern doesn't really work, especially when extend to this gen; PS1 era, Kitase 2 FF games, Ito 1 FF game; PS2 era, Toriyama 1 FF game (FFX) or, 2 if you count FFX-2, Tanaka 1 FF game (FFXI), Matsuno/Ito (Ito was brought in as sort of backup when Matsuno left) 1 FF game.
I don't think they would be working on FFXIV as you pointed out most FF games are done concurrently.
I wasn't talking just from the Director position, but if you review the developers of each main title, you can see how Kitase and Ito were involved with them following the mentioned alternate pattern.
I'll just quote their roles again:
-FFVII: Kitase (Director)
-FFVIII: Kitase (Director). I know what you said. His role was more of a supervisor, but the team was basically the same as VII, they used the same engine, just improved. As I said VIII was mostly the product of the huge success of VII, not the intended follow up game.
-FFIX: Ito (Director)
-FFX: Kitase (Producer). Yes, the director was Toriyama, but I'm talking just about both Kitase and Ito and their involvement on the games. Besides this was a promotion for Kitase, going up to be a Producer, higher rank for him.
-FFXI: Tanaka (Producer). Different story due to being an entirely and huge project.
-FFX-2: Kitase (Producer). Just to show his overall power inside the company, with a Sakaguchi already out, and milking up X's engine. Same case as VIII, with practically same team as the previous game.
-FFXII: Ito (Lead Designer). Ito was always in the game, but the director was Matsuno, he just took step over as Director when Matsuno left to complete the game. The Zodiac job system was his original idea for the game, but Matsuno didn't want a job system in the game, since he wanted to do something different than his Tactics games.
-FFXIII: Kitase (Producer). Besides that, Kitase's is the man in charge of the whole Fabula Nova Crystalis project, although most games have their own teams.
So then again, unless they sacked Ito, he is already at work on XIV. If that wasn't the case, they would have announced already a game he is working on, whatever the series could be. But being quiet about him is probably because nobody wants to talk about XIV before XIII is released of course.
I only see one more person besides Ito that could take on a main FF game, that would be the multifunctional Kawazu, and teaming him up with Ito might not be too far fetched either, specially since Ito hasn't had Producer roles.
I would hope more SaGa games are coming, or a resurrection of Secret of Mana as well, and one title that has been dead for a long time already, FFCC: The Crystal Bearers, every Wii owner is still wishing for that title not to have been canceled.
So in the end the only guy without projects is Ito, even Tanaka is very busy making FFXI updates, expansions and Rapture.
FFVI remake's problem won't be it's popularity as it's plenty popular, but if whether Kitase would take up the director mantle again with Ito to work on it. FFVII faces this issue too..
VII is easy, Nomura obviously :heh:
tehjoker
2008-11-03, 02:53
Why make a FFVII remake?
No matter what happens, they won't make a remake thanks to the Compilations.
Well, not really true, since you saw him in Code Geass and Gundam 00 thread, right? :p
Popular Sunrise series don't count ;)
Kaioshin Sama
2008-11-03, 23:53
I never really understood the hate for Nomura. The way I see it, its just this minority of haters that will always be there if things get popular and of course Kaioshin will definitely be there. He only supports underdogs and things that people don't make popular, right? Yes.
The thing is Nomura's work appeal to the masses and its because of his designs. Its safe to say there are more people who likes his work that does who do not and that's what matters.
And for Kaioshin, I'll just pull in Code Geass as an example again. Despite the hate for it, well more than 70% rates the show 9 or 10/10. Haters are always more likely to voice their 'opinions', but in the end, the silent decision could be something else.
This has nothing to do with that, I just think that he lacks any interesting vision of the kind that Sakaguchi (who has long since left the company) and his team had and that he's going to drive the Final Fantasy franchise into the ground if he gets any more control over it. His inability to see beyond Gackt and his desire to apparently be an otaku pleaser before anything else makes me think that his talents aren't at the level where he should be directing.
Considering how everything he's ever manned has had a style over substance factor (Kingdom Hearts, Advent Children etc) and his games are easily among the most boring and cutscene filled, dare I say emo, of any Square-Enix's latest affairs, I just don't see him as good for gaming. I think his character designs are more interesting then Amano's to be sure (mostly because all of Amano's drawings look the same), belts and zippers not withstanding so I just wish he would stick with that.
I will however challenge anyone to name one especially good thing that Nomura has contributed to Square-Enix's games as a whole. And no characters designs based on Gackt will not count. The guy's like Tim Burton is to Johnny Depp with how focuses he is on Gackt.
I will however challenge anyone to name one especially good thing that Nomura has contributed to Square-Enix's games as a whole. And no characters designs based on Gackt will not count. The guy's like Tim Burton is to Johnny Depp with how focuses he is on Gackt.I call it Subarashiki kono Sekai or The World Ends With You for the English version. Its very well recieved among DS players.
An intriguing storyline, characters that draw you in, interesting adaptation of city lifestyle and environment. Great interaction between people and gives an insight into the troubles of city dwellers. A unique focus and application on how fashion and trends works and spreads in Japan. Characters wear normal street fashion and not overblown designs.
Then there's the battle system that's very complex yet extremely flexible. If you're not really good at multi-tasking, you set your partner to different levels of automation and you can select difficulty of the game any time which works and responds to the players preferences very well. The learning curve is steep, but once you get the hang, you can have hours of fun and leaves players addicted.
It was considered by most if not all who played the game when it was released, to be the best DS game ever.
tehjoker
2008-11-04, 19:44
Err, Kingdom Hearts?
Even though it's a shared project with Disney, it's plot is solid.
It's target is kids but, it really has a storyline that really is confusing.
kenjiharima
2008-11-04, 19:53
Terra, Butz and Cloud will be my characters for this.
KH 4kids. Take of the Walt Disney characters. Teens and adults to a more Mature theme.
I call it Subarashiki kono Sekai or The World Ends With You for the English version. Its very well recieved among DS players.
This.
It is the only game which I respect him for. Great game, I still have some trouble digging the techno/pop style of the game, but overall is probably one of the best RPGs since the past year, excluding FFIV and DQIV/V remakes. Probably there's only one more original RPG at that level, and it is Persona 4, everything else is just not up there.
For the guy asking about why a FFVII remake, very easy, SE likes to milk out their games, if that wasn't the reason, and your compilation statement were true, why did we have a FFIV remake? That game was ported to PS1, WonderSwan and GBA before hitting the remake on DS. The remaining SNES games will have their remake soon, then it will be the turn for the PS1 games during the next decades.
And it isn't too far fetched to think that the PS2 games will be getting their remakes too in over 10 years, at this rythm, nothing is impossible.
Now, going back on topic, This week's Famitsu featuring Kefka and Terra, with their awesome EX forms, some menu interface images, more summons Leviathan, a Big Bomb and someone that could be Babariccia.
Image 1 (http://img158.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58103_uporg1767183_122_764lo.jpg&loc=loc764)
Image 2 (http://img152.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58109_uporg1767191_122_1078lo.jpg&loc=loc1078)
Image 3 (http://img108.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58617_uporg1767206_122_1187lo.jpg&loc=loc1187)
My god, I literally said it, when I saw Terra in the pics, she's too beautiful!
And just a little bit of translations from me:
In 'Image 1' Kefka(Cefka) says things like 'Let the banquet of insanity start!' and 'Lets play!'.
Tina is Terra's original Japanese version name, if I'm not wrong.
In the 'Play Back' section, it address's Terra's green hair, which fans have been asking why its blond. Its explained that in the earliest of Amano's designs, original character designer of FF6, Terra has been blond. And the costumes and character designs used for this game is strictly following those designs.
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Image 2, EX modes, the power up mode and allows you to do EX bursts.
Under the 'Check' section in the bottom right corner:
During an EX burst your opponent throws at you, there's a way to attempt to reduce your damage. You have a gauge at the right side of the screen. Time your O button with the arrow that will rise to the yellow +10 defence or bad timing results in blue -5 defence.
The main screen shows the main modes: Story Mode, Quick Battle and Wireless Mode. Then the bottom 4 are PP Catalog(unlock character appearance, bgm etc), Museum, Player Data settings, Options.
In the character Customise Menu you can check the level and stats as well as adjust:
Ability
Item
Accessory
Summon
EX Mode
Battle Raise?
Mission
Shop
Option
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Image 3 tells of how the story mode works.
Mainly the story is told using a 'chess board', you can make your advance using DP or Destiny Points. Each square carries different events, powerup events and battles(probably has monster encounters, but I'm not confirmed), etc. that has different DP requirements. Finishing different events will unlock more events and you continue your story this way making choices based on the DP you spend.
Other than that there's summons which deal massive brave damage, leaving your opponent with bare hp to deal with. If you're not sure what the brave gauge is, the previous page in this thread explains.
Then under the Check section in bottom right, shows that the game comes with FF5 that you can install in your PSP, not sure if it also comes with other FF games.
Duo Maxwell
2008-11-05, 08:57
Terra is :love:
I don't care if she's lower tier character or not, I'll use her as my main character for this game :p.
In the 'Play Back' section, it address's Terra's green hair, which fans have been asking why its blond. Its explained that in the earliest of Amano's designs, original character designer of FF6, Terra has been blond. And the costumes and character designs used for this game is strictly following those designs.
C.A thanks a lot for the details, especially for this bit!
Terra is :love:
I don't care if she's lower tier character or not, I'll use her as my main character for this game :p.
Lower tier? What are you talking about?
There are 10 main characters, and 10 main enemies.
There's no lower or higher tier, well if anything there are Chaos and Cosmos.
And secret characters, whoever they are.
Duo Maxwell
2008-11-05, 12:17
What I said, is even if she was low tier character, I'd still use her regardless. Beside, we don't know how balancing this game is, don't we?
What I said, is even if she was low tier character, I'd still use her regardless. Beside, we don't know how balancing this game is, don't we?From what I'm seeing, characters can gain levels and acquire skills.
Probably different characters can get different skills and depending on how you customise them, will make them weak or strong against others or have an edge in different factors.
There's also EX Mode, which will most likely directly affect the game's balancing.
The levels will count last, stats will definitely affect the battle system alot. But If we're talking fair battles, levels will be equal and is not part of deciding a character's tier. But again the character's stats itself will be a factor to consider for game balance.
Stats: HP, CP(not sure what it is), BRaVe, LUCk, ATtacK and DEFence
Not too much to determine balance actually.
Then there's another part, which is equipment. apparently there's a whole variety of items you can get in the game. The example in Image 2, shows item collection rate 1% and the character, Lvl 2 Warrior of Light is equipped with Broad Sword, Buckler, Bronze Helm/Armour.
I'm not sure how wireless battling with your friends is actually balanced. Probably would be something like Pokemon, you can have fun battling, but won't win if you don't customise your characters well, or and max leveled/stats.
tehjoker
2008-11-05, 14:21
KH 4kids.
Do play the game.
kenjiharima
2008-11-05, 16:20
Do play the game.
and some do not.
Duo Maxwell
2008-11-05, 21:36
I'm not sure how wireless battling with your friends is actually balanced. Probably would be something like Pokemon, you can have fun battling, but won't win if you don't customise your characters well, or and max leveled/stats.
Sounds like it depends too much on your own character's stats and equipments. Just hope it won't be the same as game online, where the higher level character can beat the crap out of low level one with ease.
New EX Mode Gameplay video
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42427.html
tehjoker
2008-11-07, 12:32
For the guy asking about why a FFVII remake, very easy, SE likes to milk out their games, if that wasn't the reason, and your compilation statement were true, why did we have a FFIV remake? That game was ported to PS1, WonderSwan and GBA before hitting the remake on DS. The remaining SNES games will have their remake soon, then it will be the turn for the PS1 games during the next decades.
And it isn't too far fetched to think that the PS2 games will be getting their remakes too in over 10 years, at this rythm, nothing is impossible.
Uh, after a lot of people have seen the "how FF7 looks in PS3" video, many fans demanded to have an FF7 remake.
Making the game in Full-3d Graphics will take a lot of time.
If there is a remake, it won't be 3d but, the same.
and some do not.
Alot of people do.
Thinking that Disney is a part of it doesn't make it a great game is auto-fail.
Disney characters blends well with the story.
If there is a remake, it won't be 3d but, the same.
So?
Then why FFIII and IV are on 3D and not the same.
You really don't make sense. It is most than obvious than all PS1 FF remakes will be on full 3D, either PSP, Wii, PS3/360, or next-gen. They won't be on DS, the DS cannot handle such amount of videos, and would make just for a port.
And they don't need to spend 5 years making an engine, The Crystal Tools engine has already been made.
kenjiharima
2008-11-07, 16:11
Alot of people do.
Thinking that Disney is a part of it doesn't make it a great game is auto-fail.
Disney characters blends well with the story.
Still it's an alternate universe and oppose to the real hardcore FFfans. Though KH did bring something good, better alternate designs for other FF characters for marketing purposes. Which we cannot deny. Cloud is an example.
Final Fantasy Dissidia brings us to closer to FF world than an alternate one.
Dissidia Limited Edition OST
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081107/dff01.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081107/dff02.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081107/dff03.jpg
tehjoker
2008-11-08, 10:16
Still it's an alternate universe and oppose to the real hardcore FFfans. Though KH did bring something good, better alternate designs for other FF characters for marketing purposes. Which we cannot deny. Cloud is an example.
Holy shit.
KH is not a freaking spin-off.
Cloud is a f*cking Cameo.
Then why FFIII and IV are on 3D
When did it become 3d?
It is most than obvious than all PS1 FF remakes will be on full 3D, either PSP, Wii, PS3/360, or next-gen
Valkyrie profile only has 3d cutscenes.
Also, FF7 is unlikely.
FF7 has, Advent Children,Crisis Core, Before Crisis, Dirge of Cerberus.
+ the upcoming Advent Children Complete.
WTF?
Do u still needz a f*cking remake with all the sequel + prequel + full 3d movie?
If i were you, I'd watch out for new FF7 related games.
When did it become 3d?I guess you don't play any DS at all. FF3 and 4 remake on DS were applauded as great 3D remakes.
Holy shit.
KH is not a freaking spin-off.
Cloud is a f*cking Cameo.
When did it become 3d?
Valkyrie profile only has 3d cutscenes.
Also, FF7 is unlikely.
FF7 has, Advent Children,Crisis Core, Before Crisis, Dirge of Cerberus.
+ the upcoming Advent Children Complete.
WTF?
Do u still needz a f*cking remake with all the sequel + prequel + full 3d movie?
If i were you, I'd watch out for new FF7 related games.
tehjoker indeed :heh:
Bigger pictures of the OST
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/119/119193/c20081107_ddff_02_cs1w1_600x700.jpg
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/119/119194/c20081107_ddff_03_cs1w1_600x700.jpg
kenjiharima
2008-11-09, 10:02
tehjoker indeed :heh:
I second that. Although Kefka reminds me of Joker in someway. :heh:
Nice finds btw. This is gonna be awesome for the PSP.
I second that. Although Kefka reminds me of Joker in someway. :heh:
I don't know what crazy evil joker figures there have been in literature and history, that might have served as inspiration for Batman's Joker. But Kefka could well have taken traits from him, or none at all, it all depends on what else is there before Batman :heh:
kenjiharima
2008-11-09, 13:27
I don't know what crazy evil joker figures there have been in literature and history, that might have served as inspiration for Batman's Joker. But Kefka could well have taken traits from him, or none at all, it all depends on what else is there before Batman :heh:
The only thing there before Batman is "THE BAT" and "THE MAN WHO LAUGHS" which served as inspirations to the gadgetry of the batman and the looks of the Joker.
Seems the cover girl and boy are Terra and Kefka and I thought Locke was the main character in FFV or was it FFIII from the old nes? Ah to hell with that... :heh:
Cloud and Sephiroth have been unveiled by Jump magazine this week, and they will be featured next week.
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081112_121302_3_big.jpg
And this other scan with an interview http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081112_121301_1_big.jpg. Once again, a little recap or summary will be really appreciated
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/dark_chris/mizore.gif
(Borrowing Kenji's sig for this post~)
kenjiharima
2008-11-12, 13:47
lol! Mizore there seems happy to FINALLY know what it feels how to fight Sephiroth as Cloud and not Sora. lol :heh:
Gotta love this game it's somewhat a dream come true for fans. Wish they included more girls, but Terra Bradford is one of my favorite FF girls gotta love that. :D
Well, we still have all the secret characters cast, but I don't expect them to be revealed until after the game's release of course.
The scan shows and says that Sephiroth can use Supernova, notice those formulae appearing on screen.
Comments on Cloud's pic below says that he can use Cross Slash and Meteor Rain.
Thanks C.A! Great to know :D
Dissidia Limited Edition OST
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081107/dff01.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081107/dff02.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081107/dff03.jpg
Those soundtrack covers are amazing, I'd buy the CD just for them, they're stunning!
Official site just updated with the TGS08 Trailer that was presented in the Closed Mega Theater. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MQRtA5hAbX0)
Kefka and Terra were added too.
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x305/Andres2Tiger/ff/dissidia_artwork_terra.png
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x305/Andres2Tiger/ff/dissidia_artwork_kefka.png
Paladinoras
2008-11-13, 03:18
Can Cloud use Omnislash?
Or is that another name for Cross Slash?
The scan shows and says that Sephiroth can use Supernova, notice those formulae appearing on screen.
Ugh, I don't want to have to sit for 3 mins and watch a large meteor crash through all the planets except Earth, fall into the sun and, very slowly, letting the explosion reach Earth :rolleyes:
And Norio Wakamoto VAing the last boss. That is TOO good. Looks like this is gonna be SE's SSB.
Can Cloud use Omnislash?
Or is that another name for Cross Slash?I'm very sure Cloud can use Omnislash, its like its already known thing before the game was even announced lol
The magazine just informs us that Cloud can also use Cross Slash and Meteor Rain lol
Cloud's EX Burst would most likely be Omnislash (Ver. 6 maybe lol).
And yes that's the original name of Cross Slash, 凶斬り, Kyougiri or 凶 Slash, the kanji that appears when he does the attack.
Unknown to lots of fans of not just FF, attack names in Japanese are usually so amazingly beautiful, they cannot be translated into English.
Omnislash in Japanese is called 超究武神覇斬 or in English, Super Ultimate War God Dominating Slash, something like that.
Images from the Limited Edition PSP bundle.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081113/dff01.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081113/dff04.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081113/dff05.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081113/dff02.jpg
kenjiharima
2008-11-13, 13:36
Man! So many good fighting and rpg's coming... Gotta save up. XD
Edit:
In the trailer Chaos?...Vincent?? O_O;;
Man! So many good fighting and rpg's coming... Gotta save up. XD
Edit:
In the trailer Chaos?...Vincent?? O_O;;
Dunno what Vincent are you talking about, but Wakamoto is the seiyuu.
Chaos and Cosmos are the good and evil 'gods'. Vincent's limit break, Chaos, is not this Chaos.
And holy crap at the bunch of great seiyuu they brought in for this game.
The PSP with the Amano artwork from the bundle really looks nice. Damn.
kenjiharima
2008-11-13, 22:38
Dunno what Vincent are you talking about, but Wakamoto is the seiyuu.
No I meant Vincent Valentine has the CHAOS within him and all the FF guys and gal are gonna fight it. Hmm...no wonder Vincent defeated Omega. :heh:
Make him a secret character along with Tifa and Yuffie for FF7.
Locke and Sabin for FFVI
No I meant Vincent Valentine has the CHAOS within him and all the FF guys and gal are gonna fight it. Hmm...no wonder Vincent defeated Omega. :heh:
Make him a secret character along with Tifa and Yuffie for FF7.
Locke and Sabin for FFVI
Ever played the first Final Fantasy? Chaos is the final boss.
Chaos in the NES version of Final Fantasy:
http://i35.tinypic.com/wrhvzb.png
Chaos in the logo of Dissidia:
http://i35.tinypic.com/24dlmol.jpg
kenjiharima
2008-11-14, 00:13
Ever played the first Final Fantasy? Chaos is the final boss.
Chaos in the NES version of Final Fantasy:
http://i35.tinypic.com/wrhvzb.png
Chaos in the logo of Dissidia:
http://i35.tinypic.com/24dlmol.jpg
Played it, but never got a chance to finish it sadly. :(
Hmm...Gotta wonder what esper Terra summoned anyone knows?
Also pretty amazing also in this game Tetsuya Nonomura kept Amano's original art and in cgi intact with FULL detail just fabulous. Most especially BUTZ. :cool:
Though Zidane gained some height here. :heh:
Bartz looks like a female.
Paladinoras
2008-11-14, 05:50
I'm very sure Cloud can use Omnislash, its like its already known thing before the game was even announced lol
The magazine just informs us that Cloud can also use Cross Slash and Meteor Rain lol
Cloud's EX Burst would most likely be Omnislash (Ver. 6 maybe lol).
And yes that's the original name of Cross Slash, 凶斬り, Kyougiri or 凶 Slash, the kanji that appears when he does the attack.
Unknown to lots of fans of not just FF, attack names in Japanese are usually so amazingly beautiful, they cannot be translated into English.
Omnislash in Japanese is called 超究武神覇斬 or in English, Super Ultimate War God Dominating Slash, something like that.
Wow, good then.
I hope that he can do the FF:AC version. .
Are you serious? Super Ultimate War God Dominating Slash?
I WANT THAT NAME!!!
Or MIX THEM!!!
SUPER ULTIMATE WAR GOD DOMINATING OMNISLASH!!! FOR ULTIMATE PWNAGE!!!:D:D:D
kenjiharima
2008-11-14, 07:27
Bartz looks like a female.
he always did...
http://www.gamershell.com/static/boxart/small/6384.jpg
Wow, good then.
I hope that he can do the FF:AC version. .
Are you serious? Super Ultimate War God Dominating Slash?
I WANT THAT NAME!!!
Or MIX THEM!!!
SUPER ULTIMATE WAR GOD DOMINATING OMNISLASH!!! FOR ULTIMATE PWNAGE!!!:D:D:DYes I'm serious lol, its a literal translation. I forgot to mention how you pronounce it in Japanese: Choukyuubushinhazan.
Omnislash has been shown to be different everytime Cloud used it in the various games it appeared. Officially the AC version is called Omnislash version 5.
Version 1 = FFVII
Version 2 = FF Tactics
Version 3 = Ehergeiz
Version 4 = Kingdom Hearts
Version 5 = FFVII:AC
Version 6? = Dissidia: FF
This month's Dengeki had an interview with the Dissidia team and has quite a few new bits of info:
- The game's story mode is split via characters. At the beginning you can only select the 10 FF heroes on the side of Cosmos.
- Each character's story mode will have connections and links to the other characters, linking their stories together in the overall plot.
- You gain PP from playing the game and can use it to unlock not just the alternate costumes for characters, but also the Chaos side characters. The Chaos side characters will also have alternate outfits to unlock.
- To get the true ending for the game, you have complete the story mode with all the characters.
- The FF5 story mode has a signficantly different style from the rest.
- Dissidia does not use motion capture. Instead all the animations are hand animated to give the motion of the characters the feel of animated characters instead of being too realistic.
- The game is designed such that each story mode can be replayed multiple times and as you play you unlock more and more options in the game, etc. They say that it's a game that you can play "for your entire lifetime".
Thanks to duckroll.
Yes I'm serious lol, its a literal translation. I forgot to mention how you pronounce it in Japanese: Choukyuubushinhazan.
Omnislash has been shown to be different everytime Cloud used it in the various games it appeared. Officially the AC version is called Omnislash version 5.
Version 1 = FFVII
Version 2 = FF Tactics
Version 3 = Ehergeiz
Version 4 = Kingdom Hearts
Version 5 = FFVII:AC
Version 6? = Dissidia: FF
I think there are no new attacks in this game, and everything, summons and special attacks, are from the previous games, so it would be incorrect to call Ver.6 to this Ommnislash, since they will probably take FFVII's version for this.
kenjiharima
2008-11-14, 16:05
Some of the guys I talked to said Squall nor The Warrior of Light can't beat Sephiroth and they say why is Cloud here over shadowed by the other FF guys and gal.
Well I said to them. Cloud has been there and done that, let others be the cover boy of FF series. ;)
Also glad to see they're not using motion capture, since it'll be more like "DEAD FANTASY" where you can do almost anything whenever fighting.
The side characters that are unlockable will hold the key here whose gonna be the party of a certain FF main character.
Come on LOCKE!!! Make it to FFD!!! You're underrated while all in all the story you where the one on focus and not Terra.
Some of the guys I talked to said Squall nor The Warrior of Light can't beat Sephiroth and they say why is Cloud here over shadowed by the other FF guys and gal.
Ugh... some of the people you talk to about games are, pardon my rudeness, very idiotic and probably have never played any other FF games besides VII for more than 1 hour.
Come on LOCKE!!! Make it to FFD!!! You're underrated while all in all the story you where the one on focus and not Terra.
Um.. no. Terra is clearly the main character of the story. Even Celes plays a bigger role, Locke just happens to be Vaan, actually I should say Vaan happens to be like him, but just to make myself clear. Locke might be the character with more playtime in the game, but he isn't the main character of the story.
I think there are no new attacks in this game, and everything, summons and special attacks, are from the previous games, so it would be incorrect to call Ver.6 to this Ommnislash, since they will probably take FFVII's version for this.The special thing about Omnislash is that while all of Cloud's limit breaks have looked more or less the same throughout all the games, Omnislash has varied the most, its a tradition on itself.
Squall's EX Burst is called Renzokuken and its already looking different from what it looks like in FFVIII.
Garland's weapon has been redesigned to be a gigantic chain sword, while Firion wields the 10 FF main character's weapons.
Just a few examples to tell you that there are new attacks or new looks of their attacks :p
Sephiroth doing Supernova is already something that must be completely different from what he did in FFVII, because in an action game it can't possibly last for 3 minutes.
The Bloodlust Kid
2008-11-15, 04:23
I never really understood the hate for Nomura. The way I see it, its just this minority of haters that will always be there if things get popular and of course Kaioshin will definitely be there. He only supports underdogs and things that people don't make popular, right? Yes.
The thing is Nomura's work appeal to the masses and its because of his designs. Its safe to say there are more people who likes his work that does who do not and that's what matters.
And for Kaioshin, I'll just pull in Code Geass as an example again. Despite the hate for it, well more than 70% rates the show 9 or 10/10. Haters are always more likely to voice their 'opinions', but in the end, the silent decision could be something else.
Here we go again with the "popularity" argument. I admit that Nomura's not the worst designer out there but I still find him mediocre.
while Firion wields the 10 FF main character's weapons.Wait, does this allude to the gameplay in FFII?
EDIT: I just had to add this
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/bloodlustkid/Final%20Fantasy/1181188489149.png
Squall's EX Burst is called Renzokuken and its already looking different from what it looks like in FFVIII.
Garland's weapon has been redesigned to be a gigantic chain sword, while Firion wields the 10 FF main character's weapons.
Just a few examples to tell you that there are new attacks or new looks of their attacks :p
Ok, you got me there :heh:
kk2extreme
2008-11-15, 15:50
Images from the Limited Edition PSP bundle.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081113/dff01.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081113/dff04.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081113/dff05.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20081113/dff02.jpg[/
so want it, btw, how much is it for the whole bundle, i can smell some rediculus high ebay price. :p
OtseisRagnarok
2008-11-15, 16:25
so want it, btw, how much is it for the whole bundle, i can smell some rediculus high ebay price. :p
Is the bundle coming to the U.S? I want it so bad!!
EDIT: I just had to add this
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/bloodlustkid/Final%20Fantasy/1181188489149.png
Oh man, this made me laugh. :p
kenjiharima
2008-11-16, 02:10
Ugh... some of the people you talk to about games are, pardon my rudeness, very idiotic and probably have never played any other FF games besides VII for more than 1 hour.
Um.. no. Terra is clearly the main character of the story. Even Celes plays a bigger role, Locke just happens to be Vaan, actually I should say Vaan happens to be like him, but just to make myself clear. Locke might be the character with more playtime in the game, but he isn't the main character of the story.
Yeah I know there not that open minded on other FF games, I always say to them that others need to shine like BUTZ/Barts lolz, Dark Knight/Paladin and Terra.
Yeah I know that Locke plays the similar role or Vaan ripped off that role. lol
But non the less he was the most developed through out the game and he was the most entertaining next to Edgar, next are Sabin, Edgar, Seletzer, Celes...aghhh!!! And so on. Gotta love the underdogs. Some say FFVII hidden characters would be Zack(palate/head swap of Cloud), Vincent and Tifa.
I hope Kain would be a hidden player too plus Vivi and Dagger.
Here we go again with the "popularity" argument. I admit that Nomura's not the worst designer out there but I still find him mediocre.
Wait, does this allude to the gameplay in FFII?
EDIT: I just had to add this
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/bloodlustkid/Final%20Fantasy/1181188489149.png
LOL!!! He's the very first harem dude in the final fantasy series! :heh: One reason I like his character.
Yeah I know that Locke plays the similar role or Vaan ripped off that role. lol
But non the less he was the most developed through out the game and he was the most entertaining next to Edgar, next are Sabin, Edgar, Seletzer, Celes...aghhh!!! And so on. Gotta love the underdogs. Some say FFVII hidden characters would be Zack(palate/head swap of Cloud), Vincent and Tifa.
I hope Kain would be a hidden player too plus Vivi and Dagger.Are there official announcements of secret characters?
Personally I'd love to see Kain as well, that guy's popular enough to have his spear reappear over so many FFs and some other SquareEnix games if I did not remember wrongly. I'd love to see a few other characters as well, but they'd probably all be pretty useless to the story of Dissidia.
And for Firion wielding the main character's weapons, I'm not sure why. In the trailers he was double wielding Buster Sword and Revolver. And then I assume a scene which was his EX Mode, showed him combining the 9 swords of other FF characters into his Wild Rose, strongest sword of FFII.
And for Firion wielding the main character's weapons, I'm not sure why. In the trailers he was double wielding Buster Sword and Revolver. And then I assume a scene which was his EX Mode, showed him combining the 9 swords of other FF characters into his Wild Rose, strongest sword of FFII.
are you talking about Butz (FF5) or Firion (FF2) :confused:
the one wielding Buster Sword, and Revolver in the trailer that I see is Butz
are you talking about Butz (FF5) or Firion (FF2) :confused:
the one wielding Buster Sword, and Revolver in the trailer that I see is Butzlol, I'll rewatch trailer now, those 2 guys keep messing me up.
EDIT: I just had to add this
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c245/bloodlustkid/Final%20Fantasy/1181188489149.png
lol, that's pretty funny :heh:. I actually liked Bartz because he was funny as hell from what I remember, prob the funniest FF main of all time(with maybe Zidane being 2nd).
kenjiharima
2008-11-16, 20:18
Butz/Barts changes job one reason why he's difficult to recognize. LOL FFX-2 girls took that ability. :heh:
Dark Knight is much cooler. Paladin's kinda awkward in design imho. :heh:
Hellbore
2008-11-16, 20:55
Butz/Barts changes job one reason why he's difficult to recognize. LOL FFX-2 girls took that ability. :heh:
Dark Knight is much cooler. Paladin's kinda awkward in design imho. :heh:
You mean Cecil from FFIV? What's wrong with the paladin design?
kenjiharima
2008-11-16, 21:14
You mean Cecil from FFIV? What's wrong with the paladin design?
Yeah that guy...I always mix up his name with Celes when typing... XD
I don't like the CGI version of his paladin look, but the sprite is cute and the Dark Knight is truly bad ass. Hmmm...reminds me of Batman again Dark Knight and Harvey...just coincidence. :heh:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/262/939425_20070920_screen003.jpg
Anyways we need this guy in also. Even if he has lipstick.
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ff4ds/swf/dl_images/3dcg_2s.jpg
he always did...
http://www.gamershell.com/static/boxart/small/6384.jpg
Just to let you know that isn't Bartz.
Just to let you know that isn't Bartz.lol, just to show how people get confused between Bartz and Firion, there's something very similar about them in their CG designs that confuses us.
kenjiharima
2008-11-17, 12:50
Just to let you know that isn't Bartz.
If it's not Barts. Then I must have mixed him up. To many FF games to back track. XD
Also since it was said that their hair grows white for some reason...I don't remember what it was must have something to do with being the same job or something...
http://i6.tinypic.com/1zley3n.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd229/Arma-X/Dissidia%20Final%20Fantasy/g59-1.jpg
lipsticks... :eyespin: :twitch:
There is an extensive article in V Jump from today, where they show Terra, Kefka, Cloud and Sephiroth, and shows Cloud's EX Burst and his EX Mode.
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081117_183946_0_big.jpg
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081117_184701_0_big.jpg
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081117_183947_2_big.jpg
The article also confirms all the EX Bursts for all 20 characters.
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081117_183948_3_big.jpg
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081117_184403_0_big.jpg
By the way, do we have this image in clean and hi-res version?
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081117_183949_4_big.jpg
The names for al the EX Bursts, fan-translated, so a confirmation would be nice.
Warrior of Light: Oversoul
Frionel: Fervid Blazer (Faabiddo Bureisaa)
Onion Knight: Ninjutsu or Great Magic
Cecil Harvey: Double Phase
Butz Klauser: Dual wielded Magic-Blade Barrage (Mahouken Nitouryuu Midareuchi)
Terra Branford: Riot Sword (her desperation attack)
Cloud Strife: Omnislash (Choukyuubushinhazan)
Squall Leonhart: Renzokuken
Zidane Tribal: Reverse Gaia
Tidus: Ace of the Blitz
Garland: Soul of Chaos
Emperor Pallamecia: Absolute Control (Zettai Shihai)
Cloud of Darkness: Super Wave Cannon (Chou Hadou Hou)
Golbez: Twin Moons (Sougetsu)
ExDeath: Distortion the Natural Order of the Universe (Uchuu no housoku ga midareru)
Kefka Palazzo: The Warring Triad (Santoushin, that means Doom, Pandemonium, and the Goddess)
Sephiroth: Supernova
Ultimecia: Time Kompression (Jikan Asshuku)
Kuja: Last Requiem
Jecht: King of the Blitz
Damn, if it wasn't my sleeping time, I'd give an extensive translation:
Character style:
Warrior of Light: Uses both sword and shield, balance type character.
Firion: Better at ground fighting than air, uses lots of weapons in ground fight.
Onion Knight: High speed flyer, can evade attacks and fight back.
Cecil: Dark Knight = Ground, Paladin = Air, play wisely.
Bartz: Uses lots of weapons and can also use magic.
Tina(Terra): Uses magic both at close and far range. Choose magic wisely for range.
Cloud: High damaging individual hits. Easily achieves Brave Break(cutting off of opponent's Break meter).
Squall: Renzokuken - Best at close range comboing, closer the better.
Zidane: Reverse Gaia - Taunts opponents with his agility and speed, good at rushing down opponents in the air.
Tidus: Ace of the Blitz - (actually said)Almight character great in attack power and speed. Easy to use.
Garland: Slow movement, High attack. Transform your weapon pressure and defeat your opponents.
Emperor: Using land mine and thunder seals to set up traps. A strategic character.
Cloud of Darkness: Time your buttons to cause different effects. Use wisely and she is powerful.
Golbeza: Attacks close and far range simultaneously. Make full use of teleporting to fight skillfully.
Exdeath: Great at guarding and countering attacks after. Uses powerful techniques.
Kefka: Uses lots of powerful magic. Key in commands to increase power.
Sephiroth: Once you hit it, it guarentees a combo, very strong. Very fast as well.
Ultimecia: Jikan Atsushuku(Time Compression) - Specialise in far range magic, spam and you release more.
Kuja: Speed type magical character. Cast magic while you're on the move.
Jecht: Powerful character in melee. Transform and you become even stronger.
EX burst names:
Warrior of Light: Over Soul - combo style attack
Firion: Forbid(?) Blazer - uses all his weapons for a combo attack
Onion Knight: Ninjutsu/Daimahou - Uses Ninjutsu and Daimahou(Great Magic) of the Ninja and Sage jobs.
Cecil: Double Face/Phase - a combo attack of darkness and light.
Bartz: Mahouken Nitouryu Midaregiri(Magic sword double wielding random slash) - combines the powers of his allies into one powerful attack. (He combines everyone's swords.)
Tina(Terra): Riot Sword - Countless blades materialise from her hands to dice up the opponent.
Cloud: Choukyuubushinhazan(Omnislash) - You know what it is and Cloud is wielding Ultima Weapon.
Squall: Renzokuken - yep, press R to trigger for more damage.
Zidane: Reverse Gaia - highspeed combo attack.
Tidus: Ace of the Blitz - like it was back in FFX
Garland: Soul of Chaos - attacks with the giant blade that causes the earth to shudder.
Emperor: Zettai Shihai(Absolute Control) - using his magical artifact he controls his opponents mind.
Cloud of Darkness: Chou Hadou Hou(Super Wave Cannon) - Mega beam that destroys everything and brings despair.
Golbeza: Sou Getsu(Twin Moons) - releases the black dragon within him along with an enormous burst of magic.
Exdeath: Uchuu no Housoku ga Midareru!(Throw the laws of the universe into chaos!) - using the void that holds the dimensions to throw the universe into chaos.
Kefka: San Tou Shin (The 3 War Goddesses) - follow the command patterns and press the buttons for power.
Sephiroth: Supernova - the harder you spam O, the more damaging it is.
Ultimecia: Jikan Atsushuku(Time Compression) - yea, you can also trigger this for more damage lol
Kuja: Last Requiem - Trance Kuja combos with powerful magic.
Jecht: King of the Blitz - what kind of killer move does transformed Jecht do!?
Character style:
Tina(Terra): Uses magic both at close and far range. Choose magic wisely for range.
Cloud: High damaging individual hits. Easily achieves Brave Break(cutting off of opponent's Break meter).
Kefka: Uses lots of powerful magic. Key in commands to increase power.
EX burst names:
Bartz: Mahouken Nitouryu Midaregiri(Magic sword double wielding random slash) - combines the powers of his allies into one powerful attack. (He combines everyone's swords.)
Tina(Terra): Riot Sword - Countless blades materialise from her hands to dice up the opponent.
Cloud: Choukyuubushinhazan(Omnislash) - You know what it is and Cloud is wielding Ultima Weapon.
Wow thanks a lot C.A.! That's great info.
By those descriptions I can see how both Terra and Kefka are rather weak, unless their close-range magic has status effects like paralize and stuff like that, I cannot see them beating anyone easier than the melee experts.
And this is usually the case in most FF games. The magic is very powerful, but while you are casting a big spell, you usually are better off just attacking better.
Cloud just seems overpowered (rather obvious..), very good at melee and achieving Brave Break.. and let's not talk about him using Ultima Weapon -_-
kenjiharima
2008-11-17, 16:30
No wonder Cloud is never shown. Overpowered Mako soilder with training with Ultima weapon. XD
I just hope the others like the Dark Knight, Terra and Butz gets there needed air time to shine.
I just hope the others like the Dark Knight, Terra and Butz gets there needed air time to shine.
Do you know that the game follows basically the fighting games' system?
As in you pick up a character, and with that character you do all the fights until beating the boss (well you can change characters in fighting games if you lose, but not here).
If you want to see the true ending of the game, then you have to beat it with all the characters, at least with 10 heroes, but there might be special ending for beating it with all 20 (and maybe for secret characters).
kenjiharima
2008-11-17, 17:47
Do you know that the game follows basically the fighting games' system?
As in you pick up a character, and with that character you do all the fights until beating the boss (well you can change characters in fighting games if you lose, but not here).
If you want to see the true ending of the game, then you have to beat it with all the characters, at least with 10 heroes, but there might be special ending for beating it with all 20 (and maybe for secret characters).
So everyone will get there chance to shine lol. That's a relief.
By those descriptions I can see how both Terra and Kefka are rather weak, unless their close-range magic has status effects like paralize and stuff like that, I cannot see them beating anyone easier than the melee experts.
And this is usually the case in most FF games. The magic is very powerful, but while you are casting a big spell, you usually are better off just attacking better.
Cloud just seems overpowered (rather obvious..), very good at melee and achieving Brave Break.. and let's not talk about him using Ultima Weapon -_-I'm translating someone's review of a game, so accuracy this not perfect, so we don't really know the true capabilities until we actually play it ourselves.
Well, the magic in this game looks very spammable and large scale magics look really damaging. Also the Esper Form Terra was using Ultima, I'm sure she packs quite a punch.
And for overpowered, Cloud sounds normal to me, because Tidus has 'Almighty Chara' in his description.
Cloud only brings out Ultima Weapon in his EX Burst, everyone brings out their strongest stuff in EX Burst so its not an issue. Squall has Lionheart, Firion has Wild Rose etc.
MakubeX2
2008-11-18, 05:26
Am I the only one that noticed that Squall is in his Garden uniform in the latest EX scan ?
OtseisRagnarok
2008-11-18, 13:26
Am I the only one that noticed that Squall is in his Garden uniform in the latest EX scan ?
If I remember correctly, you can unlock alternate costumes during the game.
Do you know that the game follows basically the fighting games' system?
As in you pick up a character, and with that character you do all the fights until beating the boss (well you can change characters in fighting games if you lose, but not here). So is it like each char has a slightly different story(ex: Terra will fight Squall, Tidus, Kefka, X-Death and Sephiroth, but never fight the rest with everyone meeting up at the end to fight the final boss) or is it like a everyone-travelling-together type of thing(ex: Cloud runs into Cecil, fights Zeromus, Cecil joins, then runs into Zidane, fights Kuja, Zidane joins, etc.)?
So is it like each char has a slightly different story(ex: Terra will fight Squall, Tidus, Kefka, X-Death and Sephiroth, but never fight the rest with everyone meeting up at the end to fight the final boss) or is it like a everyone-travelling-together type of thing(ex: Cloud runs into Cecil, fights Zeromus, Cecil joins, then runs into Zidane, fights Kuja, Zidane joins, etc.)?Should be closer to your first example.
But trailers have shown that characters seem to be paired in their stories.
Terra with Onion Knight, Squall with Warrior of light and such.
I would actually think that when heroes have to fight each other it would be more along the lines of: "ok, you beat me, you have shown me what a great warrior you are, you will be able to defeat Chaos, we are counting on you!" And stuff like that.
And for the pairings, that should be for storyline purpouses. Since this is not a fighting game per se, but there are cutscenes and a rather heavy story for the genre, then communication between characters is needed.
kenjiharima
2008-11-18, 16:04
There will be no lone wolves here I tell ya. Seeing the cover and the cgi's all are working together.
This week Famitsu feature Cloud and Sephiroth, so finally the main cast is complete.
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081119_054817_0_big.jpg
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081119_054817_1_big.jpg
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081119_054817_2_big.jpg
And green-haired Terra.
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/58201120081119_055427_0_big.jpg
This week Famitsu feature Cloud and Sephiroth, so finally the main cast is complete.
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And green-haired Terra.
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First thing: Oh Haruhi-sama, Terra is just too beautiful, more so with her green hair :love:
Cloud is using Cross Slash, Meteor Rain and Finishing Touch, the other attack can't be identified by me.
Sephiroth is using a new(?) attack Hell's gate, Supernova and Yattou Isshen(weakly named Octal Slash in english).
Well, it was just confirmed today, one of the secret characters, representing FFXI will be:
Shantotto
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It was revealed in the Final Fantasy XI Fan Fest today in Japan.
She is a Cosmos' side character, no word about any Chaos' side character from XI.
Since she is a Black Mage, with no melee qualities at all, then we can add it as a heavy magic user, probably more than any other character.
Her EX mode is unknown, and I cannot find anything from the game that it would fit as such. She only participates in one fight in FFXI, and she casts Ancient Magic II (Flare II, Freeze II, Burst II, Quake II, Tornado II and Flood II).
If she has any alternatives outfits, they are unknown as well, since she only has one during the whole game. There are a set of missions where she tries to be undercover and uses an alias, however she wears the same stuff with the only difference that she wears some glasses.
My guess would be, that for any alternative outfit, or for her EX mode, she could have the BLM relic armor, which resembles the classic black mage outfits from other games, although with no hat, since she doesn't like hats.
Here is a video about Shantotto in FFXI: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xGqFahouNms
I'm not looking forward to any Final fantasy games. They lost the old magic they once had before the merger. The legendary music composer is gone and a lot of great developers are gone. Everything after 10 has been disappointing and this game in particular looks very mediocre, even more so than that Crises Core garbage.
kenjiharima
2008-11-23, 09:53
This week Famitsu feature Cloud and Sephiroth, so finally the main cast is complete.
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And green-haired Terra.
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Wow! Looks Like Cloud is gonna kick some Sep, butt there. Also in the 2nd image looks like he's saying to the other FF characters "Sorry Iam late." lol :heh:
Also they made Terra similar to the sprite look rather than the original art look. Glad thay did it since I really like the sprite look of Terra.
Elehayym
2008-11-23, 10:27
If she has any alternatives outfits, they are unknown as well, since she only has one during the whole game. There are a set of missions where she tries to be undercover and uses an alias, however she wears the same stuff with the only difference that she wears some glasses.
My guess would be, that for any alternative outfit, or for her EX mode, she could have the BLM relic armor, which resembles the classic black mage outfits from other games, although with no hat, since she doesn't like hats.
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Hmm well it looks like she is wearing an alternative outfit in the last picture :O The color of the sleeves and such don't match with her standard outfit from the little I can see of the pic.
For some reason I can't really see Shantotto fitting well in Dissidia :heh: Looking forward to hearing Hayashibara Megumi voicing her though XD
A FF XI character confirmed?
Yes, this is exciting news. I was so sure that FF XI would be forgotten that I did not expect anything from FF XI. Even if Shantotto is the only character representing FF XI, that is good enough for me.
I now hope that FF XII and FF XIII make some sort of appearance.
Hmm well it looks like she is wearing an alternative outfit in the last picture :O The color of the sleeves and such don't match with her standard outfit from the little I can see of the pic.
For some reason I can't really see Shantotto fitting well in Dissidia :heh: Looking forward to hearing Hayashibara Megumi voicing her though XD
It was already confirmed from people attending the FanFest that it was indeed the BLM relic armor what she was wearing during her EX Mode.
And I don't know how I forgot to mention the bit about Megumi Hayashibara, but thanks for pointing it out.
I now hope that FF XII and FF XIII make some sort of appearance.
Can't tell you anything about XIII, but Nomura had said previously that XI and XII would have representatives as secret characters, not included in the game's story.
The thing is who is going to be XII's character, and if there is not going to be a pairing for each game.
A rumor running around is that for XII will be a long-range weapon character, in other words Balthier (guns) or Fran (bow).
I'm not looking forward to any Final fantasy games. They lost the old magic they once had before the merger. The legendary music composer is gone and a lot of great developers are gone. Everything after 10 has been disappointing and this game in particular looks very mediocre, even more so than that Crises Core garbage.
This game is very different than anything done previously by SE, but by no means it is to take a place inside the mainline games.
FFX-2 has the best ATB system, that makes the game great unless you can't see further in from the jpop cover.
FFXI is a game to love or hate, however haters without actually having played it will have no respect from me at all. The game is great in every sense, and the only real difference from a offline FF is the online part, everything else is just as any other game in the series.
FFXII is an almost masterpiece from Matsuno, I said almost because at the end was rushed and finished through many problems. However the International version shows how good Ito is on taking an incomplete product and making it into a real stellar game with no flaws.
Besides that there have been many more games, spin offs, sequels and remakes. Some great some not as great.
But what I think is your most idiotic and ignorant comment is the part I bolded.
Uematsu might have left SE, but he just did to be able to work on more thinks (he is a great friend of Sakaguchi, therefore he wanted to compose music for his games, but under SE could not do that).
In SE there are many great composers, however Uematsu still works with them. He did XII's music together with Sakimoto, he compsoed the music for the arcade game Lord of Vermillion, and he is doing the music for XIII together with Hamauzu.
The great developers that you name that have left aren't that many, actually although some people have moved out, that has occured since the late SNES days, but the only 2 big names that are gone are: Sakaguchi and Matsuno.
Sakaguchi is a creative genius, we own FF to him, but his input alone could have not be done without the great Directors of the games that still work for SE.
Matsuno in the other hand, although a genius too, for creating FFTactis, Vagrant Story and FFXII, his personal issues didn't allow him to continue. Currently is unknown what he is up to.
So now let's talk abou the great people from the past, that is still there in SE:
Hiromichi Tanaka, Takashi Tokita, Akitoshi Kawazu, Hiroyuki Itou, Motomu Toriyama, Shinji Hashimoto, Tetsuya Nomura, Yoshinori Kitase, Koichi Ishii, etc.
And that's just to name some Director/Producers, not including Enix (DQ/SO) people, younger talent that have been in charge or recent new IPs (TWEWY, TLR, KH, FFCC, etc) or the so many great art designers or music composers.
Are you one of those that still drive a car from the 80s because the new ones aren't good enough? Move with the times dude, there are always great things done by great new people.
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Shantotto coverage from Jump. Alternative outfit, BLM AF (Artifact armor), It seems depending the type of spell she uses, her Staff changes accordingly.
There are 8 elemental staves in FFXI, each is used for a type of magic (fire, ice, thunder, earth, water, wind, light, dark).
Here Shantotto is doing an earth based spell, which looks like Stone III, and she has an Earth Staff. In the other screenshot, she just did Flare, and she has a Fire Staff, which can be seen to in the artwork.
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A little retouch to Shantotto's art from the scan while we get some official art in the website.
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What all the FFVII fanboys were waiting for:
The official site (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia/) has been updated with a gameplay video of Cloud vs Sephiroth.
YouTube version. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8raiVQDk45U)
With this, the main cast is complete, with profiles and videos for all the I-X characters. In the site is promised that a new play video will be added soon, probably for Shantotto.
A FFXII character should be announced soon, next monday's Jump could be a good day for that.
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Duo Maxwell
2008-11-28, 09:02
What all the FFVII fanboys where waiting for:
The official site (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia/) has been updated with a gameplay video of Cloud vs Sephiroth.
YouTube version. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8raiVQDk45U)
The battle looks great, but I wish I could understand the gameplay a bit more.
I feel hyped up for this one :).
SkoolRumble4Ya
2008-11-28, 17:39
This game comes out in december right?
Justice Knight
2008-11-28, 21:50
does any1 knows where to get the background music on the home page?
This game comes out in december right?
December 18 in Japan, no date for America or Europe yet.
I SO wish that Cloud could unlock the First Tsurugi - and that one can use Advent: One-Winged Angel as an option when taking on Sephiroth!
Shadow Kira01
2008-12-01, 00:05
does any1 knows where to get the background music on the home page?
I haven't visited the Final Fantasy: Dissidia homepage yet, so I wouldn't have a clue as to how what background music you are referring to. However, if you can listen to it while broswing their homepage, then it must mean that the mp3 file is in your browser cache, just grab it there.
Y'know i haven't been keeping an eye on this game... most probably due to that whole, lack of a psp thing; why no more love for my old PS2 squareenix?
classic, hero villain clash up...
the gameplay looks exciting even if i don't have a clue what's going on...
don't really care about that secret character... only played FFXI back in the day before the expansions though so that's screws with my perception... she has such a generic design, as in she's look like an other taru black mage; id it took much to ask that such characters have a look that distinctly sets them a part from the average player...
though this also makes me wonder if they will include FFXII characters as unlockable, or even FFXIII... there was plenty of time in development for them to have been included... including an FFXIII character is usually a nice way to add a little hype and remind us of the game that has been getting it's released date pushed further and further back. As for FFXII... i would probably nominate Gilgamesh...
though another character that needs to be in here, though not necessarily a fighter... a cid... no way the could have a massive FF cross over and not have a cid
OtseisRagnarok
2008-12-01, 12:46
though this also makes me wonder if they will include FFXII characters as unlockable, or even FFXIII... there was plenty of time in development for them to have been included... including an FFXIII character is usually a nice way to add a little hype and remind us of the game that has been getting it's released date pushed further and further back. As for FFXII... i would probably nominate Gilgamesh...
I second that! The only thing is, If I remember correctly, The hero from FFI is most likely going to play like Gilgamesh would.
Not to mention that Vaan is too annoying. If anyone from FFXII shows up, I hope it's Ashe, Vayne, or possibly Basch....
though another character that needs to be in here, though not necessarily a fighter... a cid... no way the could have a massive FF cross over and not have a cid
Which Cid are you suggesting? I'd put my favouritism on FFVII Cid, though.
V Jump announced a starter's guide for Dissidia called Destiny Hero's Guide. It will cover details on all the playable characters, as well as the story modes for the 10 heroes in the game.
Although the text has now been altered, a blog is reporting that when it first went up it said it covers details on all "22 playable characters", which would confirm that besides Shantotto, only one more secret character remains - most likely from FFXII.
http://vjumpbooks.com/bc0812-dissidia.html
To even things up, since Shantotto is a Cosmos side character, a Chaos side one would be needed, and looking at the cast of enemies in FFXII, the more likely would be Gabranth.
What if its really Gilgamesh for the last secret instead lol
I second that! The only thing is, If I remember correctly, The hero from FFI is most likely going to play like Gilgamesh would.
Not to mention that Vaan is too annoying. If anyone from FFXII shows up, I hope it's Ashe, Vayne, or possibly Basch....
wait so the hero from FFI is gonna be fighting with multiple swords... like i said i haven't been keeping up on news of this game
Though Gilgamesh could have a pet to back him up...
Which Cid are you suggesting? I'd put my favouritism on FFVII Cid, though.
none in particularly... this FF game just needs 'A' cid...
also, gotta work in cameos and some kind of role for moogles and chocobos... even if in a non-playable sense... just for fan-service -=p
What if its really Gilgamesh for the last secret instead lol
I guess Gilgamesh could pass for a chaos side character... but chaos will likely get some other character
why? because then Gilgamesh shall come in and be on his OWN side!
Gilgamesh: "Choas, Cosmos, All shall tremble and fall by the blades of the mighty Gilgamesh! MWHAHAHAHAHAHA"
I've been a Final Fantasy fan as soon as I got one of the games in my hand. With FFVII and VIII being my favorite, I'm glad to see Squall back in action. Cloud too, but we all knew that he will be in it as soon as we saw Sephiroth in the first few trailers. The gameplay looks sick, although not yet sure how the controls will be, but I'm pretty sure they will nail it right.
My only complain would be that only pair of two is taken from a FF game. Shame really cuz' I would love to see Tifa or, for example, Yuna in it.
wait so the hero from FFI is gonna be fighting with multiple swords... like i said i haven't been keeping up on news of this gameActually its Firion and Bartz from FFII and V respectively. I've a full translation of the magazine scan telling us the fighting styles and EX Bursts of all characters on page 8:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2058811&postcount=147
Justice Knight
2008-12-02, 08:39
just tried and cant get the song,maybe i used a wrong method.
I haven't visited the Final Fantasy: Dissidia homepage yet, so I wouldn't have a clue as to how what background music you are referring to. However, if you can listen to it while broswing their homepage, then it must mean that the mp3 file is in your browser cache, just grab it there.
new scans
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Advent Children Cloud, Sephiroth One Winged Angel(if i call it), Transe Djidane and Kuja, Shantotto and a lot of information about Chaos/Cosmos Side.
Awesome! Thanks IchiKyo.
Zidane and Kuja's EX Modes are just great. And the interview is huge, I hope someone comes out in our aid! :heh:
Saki_chan
2008-12-03, 02:40
new scans
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Advent Children Cloud, Sephiroth One Winged Angel(if i call it), Transe Djidane and Kuja, Shantotto and a lot of information about Chaos/Cosmos Side.
Haha, of course Sephiroth is randomly shirtless in the first one. And Zidane looks crazy in trance form; I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I always thought the whole turning-bright-pink-from-STRENGTH thing was odd.
I'm so glad Terra's in the game! <3 I mean, I guess it's not surprising, since she's one of the most popular characters in the game and debateably the main character, but still. I'm happy about it. If only she had her green hair, though...
Shadow Kira01
2008-12-03, 10:03
The way Zidane glows, it reminds me of the 00's TRANS-AM system.
Haha, of course Sephiroth is randomly shirtless in the first one. And Zidane looks crazy in trance form; I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I always thought the whole turning-bright-pink-from-STRENGTH thing was odd.
Well you know, Sephiroth = fan-service before all, now let's bet if Cloud appears shirtless too :heh:
I believe the point of both Zidane and Kuja were them being from a superior race, so they were over the whole theme of the sexuality, that didn't stop Zidane to be a pervert with both Vivi and Garnet of course, but that's just mostly because of his personality
I'm so glad Terra's in the game! <3 I mean, I guess it's not surprising, since she's one of the most popular characters in the game and debateably the main character, but still. I'm happy about it. If only she had her green hair, though...
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There are alternative outfits, and green-haired Terra is one of them :p
Some details from today's scans:
- Cloud's alternate costume is his FFVIIAC costume, and Sephiroth is just topless.
- When you save replays of matches, there're lots of options in the action replay for playing with the camera, zoom, and even removing displays and taking screenshots.
- There are equipment that are artifact types in the game. They'll be indicated with a hammer icon. With equipment that are artifact types, they can be transferred from player to player over the online lobby. Each transfer has a possibility of changing the equipment's name/stats into something else. It's kind of like a chain mail/virus item that evolves from going to player to player and even tracks ownership history.
- The Command Battle option in the game actually turns the game from an action title to a menu driven battle where you simply select the actions that you want the character to take. Like Attack/Defend/Run/etc. It's not just a menu for different attacks.
- The 3 install types are Battle Data, Battle Data + Story Data, and Full Install.
- The FF Museum section has a Character Files section looks a lot like FFXII's beastiary, except it seems to cover characters as well. Really nice.
- There will definitely be a FFXII character.
- Chaos side characters have no story mode, this is finally confirmed. Only Cosmos characters will, but you will see the story for both sides by playing through with all the Cosmos characters. :(
- There are no hidden game modes that have not been announced.
- There are only 12 stage maps in the game. There are 24 selectable options because you can select each stage with or without the stage gimmicks that might be present. The 25th stage selection is just the "random stage" option.
- Aside from using character from the entire series as Friend Card icons, they're also using them for Help messages, so characters from every single FF game will providing help messages via text. Between the help message characters and all the selectable player icons you can unlock, there are over 300 characters in total.
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Now some info about the Dissidia Ultimania book that will be released in Japan tomorrow (today already there) December 4. Some info from the book:
- This isn't a complete list of the tracks in the game, it's just what the map screen for each story mode character will be:
FF1: Main Theme
FF2: Main Theme
FF3: Eternal Wind
FF4: Main Theme
FF5: Four Valiant Hearts
FF6: Tina's Theme
FF7: Main Theme
FF8: Blue Fields
FF9: Crossing Those Hills
FF10: To Zanarkand
- Apparently when in EX Mode, Cecil can change classes freely using R+[].
- The PP Catalog of stuff you can unlock include: Chaos characters, Another Forms (alternate outfits), Stages for use in Quick Battle Mode, Battle BGM, Friend Card Icons, Calander Bonuses.
- There's a Calander Mode in the game when you first start a save file. You are allowed to select a special day in the week where you have more time to play the game than usual. When playing Dissidia on those days, there are special bonuses that will be available.
- It costs 500 PP to unlock Chaos Characters. I'm not sure if this is an unlock for all 10, or if it's 500 PP for each Chaos character. Each sounds more logical though.
- In the Museum mode character viewer, you can check the play statistics of all the playable characters you've used so far. Tracked stats include play time, distance travelled, etc.
And to conclude my post, a bit from an IGN article posted today http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/935/935144p1.html
"Japanese audiences can also look forward to a December 15 episode of Game Center CX, a Japanese video game television show (it's been converted into a DS game, in case you feel that you might have heard the name somewhere). According to Famitsu, this episode will feature a five minute clip of Dissidia complete with a surprise at the end. Since most of our readers probably don't get Game Center CX, we'll be sure and let you know what's shown."
So everyone knows now, one last surprise on December 15 right before release, December 18 in Japan.
It's even said that the condition to unlock Shantotto will be very different than buying Chaos Character since you won't be able to meet her in the main story?
I think that wasn't mentioned this time, but if both Shantotto and the FFXII character aren't unlocked by buying them with points as with the Chaos characters, then it might be by meeting certain requirements.
I.e. Completing the story with X number of characters, or reaching X level, or any other thing similar to how you unlock secret characters in other games.
Well you know, Sephiroth = fan-service before all, now let's bet if Cloud appears shirtless too :heh:
To be fair though, Sephiroth DID appear shirtless in the finalfight between him and cloud... all they did was add the black wing.... so while fanserivcy, its not too random as it is excusable
To be fair though, Sephiroth DID appear shirtless in the finalfight between him and cloud... all they did was add the black wing.... so while fanserivcy, its not too random as it is excusable
I know, but still there was no reason to mix the wing with being shirtless, if they were trying to be accurate with the outfits, so hence my comment about the fanservice for girls :p
Anyway, new gameplay video, showing how the system works from the battle map until the end of a fight with gaining exp and gil. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=weskLAT2Q1M
1UP did an article covering some points from the Famitsu interview http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171614
On the introduction of Shantotto, a black mage NPC from Final Fantasy XI, to the lineup
Takahashi: There were assorted candidates to choose from [in FFXI], like Prishe. We wound up asking the FFXI fans on the staff what character would make them the most happy to see in the game, and they all said "something Tarutaru"! Shantotto wound up being the choice from the Tarutaru available. They're a small target to strike, so balancing their hit detection was a difficult process -- we can't let Shantotto have a unique advantage, so we were messing with her right to the very end.
So where are the Final Fantasy XII characters at?
Nomura: Introducing Shantotto and not one of the FFXI player-characters was one of the surprises we've given people in interviews from the beginning of the project. As for FFXII, just stay tuned for now (laughs). One idea we had was to include an FFXIII character, but having one debut in Dissidia would lock down the image of his or her skills and so forth, perhaps affecting FFXIII in the process. As a result, we couldn't get permission.
On the pleasures of being an evil character in Dissidia
Takahashi:There isn't a story mode for the Chaos side, but that doesn't mean the story's weaker for those characters. If you play from the Cosmos side, you'll get to see the Chaos story along the way.
Arakawa: If you're trying to raise all the Chaos characters, I'd recommend waiting until after you complete all the Cosmos characters and see the ending. Exactly why I say this is a secret, but...
Takahashi: You can always use PP to access the Chaos characters early on, but you can use a certain mode after viewing the ending that will make raising them a lot more fun.
Ikeda: The Chaos story events are great, too. Basically, one side wants to destroy the world and the other wants to rule over it, and they have conferences and things.
Thoughts on completing the project
Arakawa: I'm just happy to see everything work out. It's a relief that we made the 20th anniversary safely.
Takahashi: [The hardest part] was balancing -- not just between characters, but between all 100 levels and the equipment they may be carrying. It took a long time, and there's really no good ending point to it, but I think we're pretty confident about the results.
Oh well, at least they considered Prishe :( Maybe in Dissidia 2.
Spoilers warning: found in the Ultimania Alpha book, Story Mode summaries of each Cosmos's side character ahead, so be forwarned.
Source (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/22342.html)
Ultimania Alpha - Story Mode Summaries
I found this set of Ultimania transcriptions on the Japanese web, and I just had to take a stab at them. These are summaries cover the stories of the main ten Warriors of Cosmos... and there are spoilers. If you do not want to be in any way spoiled for the plot of Dissidia, I would suggest you turn away now. But if you're curious... the info is under the cut.
Warrior: Under the guidance of Cosmos, Warrior comes to learn of the state of the world as caught in the whirl of chaos. He sets out alone to find the one thing that can save the world - The Crystals. But along the way, the troops of Chaos attempt to knock him from the noble path. If the "truth" they preach is correct, then how can the Warrior continue to believe in the "Light?"
Firion: He begins his journey in the company of Cecil, Cloud, and Tidus. At first, he believes that "To find the Crystals will solve everything," but as he walks many paths, and meets new friends, his views gradually begin to change. He cannot believe in any dream but his own - and he sees the lessons of "The Wild Rose" as the key to the truth.
Onion: The Onion Knight is a young man who is wise beyond his few years. He is confident in the merits he has gained along the way, but hides the fact that he still harbors some of the fears of youth, and holds the aniexty behind his actions close to his chest. As they search for the Crystals, Onion comes to draw strength from his traveling companion, Terra. However, just as he is truly taking pride in himself, it might not be enough for them...
Cecil: While he is traveling together with Firion and Tidus, Cecil has his misgivings about if obtaining the Crystals is truly the answer. Then right before him, appears his brother Golbez, aligned with the troops of Chaos. Sometimes, his words appear to be advice for his younger brother, but is it only a trap to confuse Cecil? ...Thus Cecil finds himself torn between his mission as one serving Cosmos and the emotions he carries for his brother.
Bartz: Wishing to transform this crisis into a bit of fun, he and his fellow warrior Zidane propose to have a contest to see who will find the Crystals first. However, he is caught in their enemies' trap, and is flown off to the home base of the troops of Chaos. But he does not lose heart, and in escaping Bartz is triumphant in finding the Crystals. But on the path ahead, a greater trap may be waiting him.
Terra: Possessing a gentle, calm heart, Terra also weilds a great magical power in contrast to this kind nature, a power she cannot properly control. As she begins her journey to locate the Crystals, her cheerful companion Onion acts as a foil to her, but along the way a mysterious memory of hers suddenly vanishes. Soon, she will have to confront the truth hidden this missing time to win it back...
Cloud: While he finds Firion, Cecil, and Tidus to be reliable enough as comrades, Cloud finds himself becoming depressed. Why is he fighting? How long will he continue fighting? But he finds himself still strugglng to find and understand those answers. Then, Cloud finds a clue amid a discussion with his comrades. However, a "shadow" form his past seeks to block his progress.
Squall: Always the highest of achievers, he finds companions to be unnecessary. With this in mind, Squall seperates himself from the other warriors of Cosmos, and plans to find the Crystals on his own. Those traveling with Bartz find him, and express their concern over Squall, and he promises to meet up with them again. Even though this concern over his well-being leaves Squall feeling awkward. However, his heart is unconciously softening....
Zidane: "A competition to see who will find the Crystals first..." That is what Zidane offered his traveling companion Bartz. However, Bartz is caught in a trap laid out for Zidane, and falls into the hands of the troops of Chaos. Considering this to be his fault, Zidane is driven to right it by his feelings of worry. Zidane searches far and wide to help him, but is he only driven to protect his friend due to this sense of dread?
Tidus: Though he is seeking the Crystals, Tidus sets his sights on another target. The "detested old man" who treated him like brat with that swagger - he wants to take on Jecht. With his eyes set so firmly upon this goal, his traveling companions worry where this path is leading him with each and every step forward. But, Tidus' truth feelings about his father, almost unnoticed by himself, are still sleeping the depths of his heart.
Sassarai
2008-12-07, 23:26
lol thought this was pretty funny
http://kotaku.com/5103736/how-to-design-characters-the-square+enix-way
lol thought this was pretty funny
http://kotaku.com/5103736/how-to-design-characters-the-square+enix-way
This meme is so reused and pisses me off, and the guy that wrote that article, Owen Good, is nothing more than an idiot, in my opinion.
I'm not a Nomura fan but I don't like when people, and specially one of the worst gaming websites start trolling for no other reason than filling up their daily quota of articles on a slow news day, when they couldn't find any forum post to steal, modify and make up as their own shit.
/rant off.
OtseisRagnarok
2008-12-08, 16:23
This meme is so reused and pisses me off, and the guy that wrote that article, Owen Good, is nothing more than an idiot, in my opinion.
I'm not a Nomura fan but I don't like when people, and specially one of the worst gaming websites start trolling for no other reason than filling up their daily quota of articles on a slow news day, when they couldn't find any forum post to steal, modify and make up as their own shit.
/rant off.
Why are you taking this so seriously? I actually thought this article was somewhat funny. Sure, the joke has been abused since FFVII came out, but it's still a valid point.
lol thought this was pretty funny
http://kotaku.com/5103736/how-to-design-characters-the-square+enix-way
heh, it's funny because it's true
i will say this about Nomura though... atleast he isn't responsible for some of the crap (http://www.s0rethumbs.com/uploader/files/ffta2-art-1.jpg)we got from FFT (http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/art/ffta-mewt.jpg) Advance (http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/Rheebus/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics%20Advance/ffta-marche.jpg)
honestly, i have no idea what they were smoking when they decided to use those designs... Nomura may use a lot of elements over and over again, but those designs are bad enough to make me physically ill
though to be fair, that guy's art is not nearly as bad when he makes much more simple designs, or redesigns of other peoples characters like he did with revenant wings... those were like picking the worst of the worst... which only serves to baffle me as to how they could have possibly passed as selections for main characters...
Artworks for Chaos and Cosmos
http://tifa.jp/cgi-bin/src/ff7ac1435.jpg
Also Famitsu give 36/40 for Dissidia
http://www.psphyper.com/psp/weely-famitsu-rates-dissidia-final-fantasy/
atleast he isn't responsible for some of the crap (http://www.s0rethumbs.com/uploader/files/ffta2-art-1.jpg)we got from FFT (http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-01/art/ffta-mewt.jpg) Advance (http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p183/Rheebus/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics%20Advance/ffta-marche.jpg)
honestly, i have no idea what they were smoking when they decided to use those designs...
Oh so now Ito Ryoma's art is crap?
The validity of your opinion ends right exactly when you used crap as the only description of why you dislike Ito's art.
Anyway, leaving the stupidity aside, a translation from the Famitsu review:
フランソワ林 - Score: 10, nominated it for "Best Picks of this Week"
With a number of distinguished characters appearing together, it is not a mere party, but plays out like a expertly told story. The prerendered movies are first-rate. The pillar of the game is how easy controls and consistent learning curve meld together with "captivating" action. Like most FF games there is an abundance of customization, all finely detailed. The only issue is that it can occasionally feel hard to understand what is going on around you.
メルヘン須藤 - Score: 9, nominated it for "Best Picks of this Week"
With speedy battles, this game of fast pursuits and balancing offense and defense is hot. It's difficult to completely master the characters, especially as enemies become more formidable as your level goes higher. Its fascinating how there are an infinite amount of ways to customize. This is really handheld gaming at its peak. Regarding the story itself though, my opinion of that isn't quite the same.
奥村キスコ - Score: 9, nominated it for "Best Picks of this Week"
Able to produce battles that look like scenes out of Advent Children, the simple controls make it easy to enjoy. But, it doesn't end there, as an exacting history and story have also been woven into this game! If you do as I did while playing, I'm sure you'll relish all the special effects and take your hat off to the overflowing amount of little tricks you use. This will positively reward all of the fan speculation (hype).
ローリング内 - Score: 8
The ability to steal your opponent's "Attack Power" (Brave) through your attacks is a unique addition, as is the novel gameboard style over-world map used in this game. Because of the number of technical terms, even when you play through the tutorial understanding it all can still be a problem. The battles are refreshing, and the character customization keeps some of the RPG feel.
Finally, we have a set of rankings of the characters according to the Japanese fans. It would take me a bit to translate all of the commentary but for now, here are scores, first by side and then the top three overall -
Cosmos side, average score - 83.3: Tidus - 90, Bartz Klauser - 88.3, Zidane Tribal - 86.7, Cloud Strife - 86.7, Cecil Harvey - 86.7, Terra Branford - 85, Onion Knight - 85, Squall Leonhart - 83.3, Warrior of Light - 78.3, Firion - 63.3
Chaos side, average score - 78.32: Kefka Palazzo - 93.3, Jecht - 91.7, Sephiroth - 85, Cloud of Darkness - 85, Kuja - 83.3, Ultimecia - 76.7, Emperor - 76.3, Garland - 71.7, Golbez - 66.7, Exdeath - 53.3
Top Three - 1. Kefka, 2. Jecht, 3. Tidus
Link (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/26158.html#cutid1)
Translations from the Ultimania guide, warning for spoilers of some story, character details, EX mode, etc.
- Tidus and Jecht:
Tidus
【Concept】
"Dodge-Attack"
Though he uses a sword he's not your everyday swordsman, as he efficiently intergrates his natural athletic abilities to attack while constantly moving about. He is able to shift around into a back stab, making avoiding enemy attacks easier, and leaving him better equipped to quickly respond to enemy attacks as he continues with his evasions. He almost seems to float a bit like Kuja, one of the main points about him that the staff debated hotly.
【Position and Personality】
Always up-beat no matter the surroundings, Tidus is a positively cheerful 17-year-old. He was gathering popularity as a young blitzball star. While he tends to affect everyone's mood around him, when it comes to his own issues he often loses his temper. But he is also sentimental, and often wears his heart on his sleeve. His possesses very complicated feelings regarding his father Jecht.
【EX Info】
EX-Mode Effect: Weapon change. He switches to Caladbolg.
EX-Mode Bonus: Caladbolg (Raises HP and attack power), Hastega (Increases movement speed - to the point of being able to avoid magic). This also allows the player a bit more reaction time for dodging.
EX-Burst: "Blitz Ace" He slashes rapidly at his opponent, then he tosses a blitzball into the air to shoot at his opponent with an overhead kick. As in the original, a bar appears at the bottom of the screen, with a cursor moving back and forth across it. When the cursor reaches the center of the bar, press the O button to raise the last attack's power.
Jecht
【Concept】
"Ultimate In-fighter/Super In-fighter"*
He doesn't use magic, so intend overwhelms his opponent in close-quarters, making him a character suitable for those who like fighting games. He moves quickly, and once he makes the approach, his over-whelming strength easily depletes his opponent's Brave in fast combos. The fact that his Brave attacks only grow stronger as he gains more Brave make him more dangerous. His combos have many different branches, and their flow changes depending upon the player's ability to input attacks with optimal timing. In this way, it is possible to cancel out the time between attacks, allowing HP attacks to be integrated into combos.
*Concept titles with a / indicate that more than one term has been used to describe the character's fighting style.
【Position and Personality】
Jecht is Tidus' father, and was once a star blitzball star like his son. He lacks the ability to properly express love or other tender feelings, resulting in an extremely rocky relationship with his son. Though he has no desire to rule the world, he is allied with the side of Chaos for his own reasons. This motive will be revealed through the story. In comparison to a shadowy manipulator like Golbez, he is the type who acts without thinking.
【EX Info】
EX-Mode Effect: A transformation based on Braska's Final Aeon from the original game.
EX-Mode Bonus: No name given. Even if his attack misses, another one can be executed without pause. It is possibly to totally dominate an opponent when they have no time to counter-attack.
EX-Burst: "King of The Blitz" He flings his opponent with a kick, slashes at them with his sword, and then kicks a boulder at them. The same timer bar that Tidus has appears, and the O Button has to pressed went the cursor reaches the center. If you succeed in selecting it the first time, then a second bar appears to power it up further.
- Zidane and Kuja:
Zidane
【Concept】
"Air Master"
He moves quickly, which helps to make him more user-friendly in ariel battles, where he excels. He can also preform multiple mid-air jumps, a talent that serves him well on narrow battle maps with scaffoldings. Since he dual-weilds his daggers he has a lot of moves. One motif is that his HP attacks are named after his Dyne skills.
【Position and Personality】
Hiding his profession as a thief behind an actor's mask, Zidane is a cheerful 16 year-old. His energentic persoality is summed up as "he is cool when push comes to shove."* He has good powers of discernment, as well as plenty of courage, and he fancies himself to be a ladies' man. His brother Kuja is battling for the side of Chaos, and the two have vastly different views on life, with Zidane considering protecting people to be of the utmost importance. He is competing with Bartz to see who will obtain the Crystals first.
*Quote comes from Main Programmer, Ryuji Ikeda
【EX Info】
EX-Mode Effect: Trance mode from the original game.
EX-Mode Bonus: "Level 10 Jump" (Possible to jump 10 times while in the air) Further more, until he hits the ground again, enemy attacks will not hit him.
EX-Mode Burst: "Reserse Gaia." Using his daggers, he accelerates through a series of high-speed attacks, then he connects his daggers together by their handles to from a single swallow blade, for a single finishing blow. A gauge is displayed, and the O button is pressed to execute the series of attacks. The guage is split into quarters, each one possessing a certain time limit. If the barrage slows and the time limit passes, it will automatically skip to the last attack.
Kuja
【Concept】
"Range Free/Range Master"
By pushing X in the air, he is able to glide about freely. It gives a feeling of floating with its own peculiar inertia. While he is able strike hard from above, he does have short-range attacks as well, letting him easily cope with close-combat. He can move while attacking, and the analog stick can be used in 2-stage attacks, allowing the range of the second attack to vary. If this type of combo consists of the same type of magic - for example Flare followed by Flare - the second attack will be powered-up.
(Note from Mini: Apparently, recreating spells like Ultima as they appeared in IX was difficult.)
【Position and Personality】
Kuja is a beautiful and brutal angel of death, wrapped in a shadowy ambiance. As in the original story, he is deeply involved in plotting to ensnare his brother Zidane. He enjoys speaking as if he is in a play, and is a narcissist with a bias towards beauty. Possessing an extraordinarily high amount of pride, he tends to look down upon the other troops of Chaos, and plans to be triumphant over all of them.
【EX Info】
EX-Mode Effect: Trance from the original game.
EX-Mode Bonus: No name given. While moving and jumping, Kuja is automatically protected by a ring of magic. Also, everytime he jumps a bullet of light is shot out from the ring.
EX-Burst: "Last Requiem" Begining with a series of magical explosions, his bullets of light come together in a single large ornate explosion for his finale. The same as Zidane, once the gauge appears the O button is to be pressed repeatedly to cause the explosions. The gauge is divided into quarters, and if the pace of entry is too slow the gauge will vanish, ending with the reduced number of explosions.
- Squall and Ultimecia
Squall Leonhart
【Concept】
"Combo Master/Combo Fighter"
With his Gunblade, he is quick to attack at at short distances, and combine bullet and blade in his fighting style. Although close-quarters combat on the ground is his forte, he can use magic, allowing him to attack from a distance as well. Either way, he be relished by players who love delivering long strings of combos. Though his HP attacks are a little slow, they have a large attack range.
(Mini notes that Squall tends to run like a girl in this game)
【Position and Personality】
Squall is a 17-year-old swordsman who fights with a gunblade. He graduated from the mercenary training school, Balamb Garden, originally founded to defeat the Sorcereresses. Reticient and rather impolite, he distances himself from his allies, but this to due to his hidden vunerability and fears regarding being hurt. Thus, few people get close to him. As in the original game, he has many moments of personal soul-searching.
【EX Info】
EX-Mode Effect: Swittches weapons from Revolver to Lionheart.
EX-Mode Bonus: Lionheart (Increases the power of Gunblade attacks. It also increases the reach of the blade, and causes it to fire upon contact with opponents, further increasing its damage output)
EX-Burst: Renzokuken - Uses his Gunblade in a series of attacks against his opponent, mirroring the finisher "Lionheart." With sharp explosions, he lets the bullets fly. As in the original, a bar appears at the bottom of the screen with a marker labled "Trigger" to show when to hit the R button to increase the attack's power. The trigger can be hit up to eight times. However, missing the Trigger will automatically end the chance to power up the attack, making the game skip to ending of Lionheart.
【Alternate Costume】
The SeeD Uniform from the original game.
Ultimecia
【Concept】
"Magic Shooter"
Although her attacks and movements are a bit slow, as a ranged character her magic bullets can travel long distances. Even if someone manages to approach, she can continue to launch attacks while moving, allowing her to put distance between her and her opponent while still fighting. Her attacks change dependent upon the number of times the button is pushed, allow her barrages to gain power and her attacks to have variations. Also, some of her attacks draw from the image of a "Sorcereress' Knight" with orginal magical weapons such as a sword, an axe, and bow named after the position.
【Position and Personality】
Ultimecia is a Sorcereress with the incredible power to manipulate the flow of time. While attempting to compress time so that she alone could live forever, Squall and his friends came to oppose her. As this femme fatale flaunts her voluputous figure, she still maintains an air of charm and elegance. Around her fellow troops of Chaos she pretends to be polite while scheming behind their backs, reveling in her own vainglorious thoughts.
【EX Info】
EX-Mode Effect: Changes form as she junctions herself to Griever in a way similiar to the original game.
EX-Mode Bonus: No name given. Her magical powers increase, and she gains a special R+Square attack.
EX-Burst: "Time Compression" She stops time around her opponent to freeze them in place, and then barrages them with magical bullets, ending with a large explosion referred to as "End of Memories."* In the middle of her attack, a guage similiar to Squall appears, complete with the same manner of markers. When her marker reaches the "Fire!" mark, press the O button with the proper timing to increase the power of her projectiles. Successfully completing the sequence will affect the amount of Brave she can steal from her opponent, but either way the general effect of the attack will remain the same.
*This title is meant to parrell Squall's finisher "Lionheart" known as "End of Heart" in Japan
Link (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos)
kenjiharima
2008-12-10, 18:17
Are there only 2 character secrets in the game? Non other revealed yet?
Oh so now Ito Ryoma's art is crap?
The validity of your opinion ends right exactly when you used crap as the only description of why you dislike Ito's art.
Funny how you say that "crap" was my only description of his art when in the post continued on with me admitted i was being unfair to him by pointing out his worst character art when the rest of his art is not that bad
i didn't know that on an internet forum i can not simply summarize my half-jokingly opinion and must go into a long page long rant going into the details of why his art is displeasing; pointing out every unnecessary item, everything that doesn't make sense, how its over complexity actually causes it damage and so forth... i must go to great lengths to point out why the main character of ffta2 is a walking fashion disaster
i apologize for forgetting that the internet (http://www.wisemouseboy.com/gallery2/d/3790-2/internet_serious_business_framed.jpg) is serious (http://images.sodahead.com/images/polls/0/0/0/1/7/3/5/4/7/polls_internet_serious_business_4326_282646_poll_x large.jpeg) business (http://www.viscerotica.net/pictures/commentary/internet_serious_business4.jpg)
it is not a place for joking around apparently
MakubeX2
2008-12-15, 16:36
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1600/1229368506985ao0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I guess no one here expected that lol and he definitely fits with the bunch of armoured villians over at Chaos.
Iron Maw
2008-12-15, 21:07
Jecht confirmed to be the best character in the game::p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBPCymJALlc
Character Info and Rankings (based on ease of use) form Famitsu (Review Score 10/9/9/8 36/40) and Dengeki (Review Score 95/95/85/85):
FFIII:
ffchaoticcosmos: Dissidia Countdown - III (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/30556.html#cutid1)
FFIV:
ffchaoticcosmos: Dissidia Countdown - IV (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/29396.html)
FFV:
ffchaoticcosmos: Dissidia Countdown - V (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/29077.html)
FFVI:
ffchaoticcosmos: Dissidia Countdown - VI (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/28038.html#cutid1)
FFVII:
ffchaoticcosmos: Dissidia Countdown - VII (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/27320.html)
FFVIII:
Dissidia Countdown - VIII (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/26474.html )
FFIX:
http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/25490.html#cutid1
FFX:
ffchaoticcosmos: Dissidia Countdown - X (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/24979.html#cutid1)
FFXI:
ffchaoticcosmos: Dissidia Countdown - XI (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/23559.html)
Cosmos Character Rankings
ffchaoticcosmos: Cosmos Character Rankings (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/27788.html)
Chaos Character Rankings:
ffchaoticcosmos: Chaos Character Rankings (http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/28757.html)
All New Trailer featuring Gabranth:
http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/30869.html
Justice Knight
2008-12-16, 08:25
the new trailer,do u have a better quality cos the one u posted was a bit laggy.
MakubeX2
2008-12-16, 16:38
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6980/2525es8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8189/2526te8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
With any luck, I just might get the game today.
Iron Maw
2008-12-17, 17:23
Gameplay Videos:
Tidus vs Squall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTyRB-qCf_Q
Cloud vs Zidane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3oTlRullZ4
Zidane vs Bartz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_rjQU17EpY
Bartz vs Cloud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUjRVVvzRho&fmt=6
More here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/IrrelevantAlex
MakubeX2
2008-12-18, 09:16
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/98/p1070903ob2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Yes, I've invested in a 3000 for this title. Now some personal impression.
- Everyone since VII are too n00b friendly. I don't wish to see people spamming Cloud/Sephy or anyone after them online. Y'all hear ?
- Old School 2D chara get modern tech makeover + voices = Good. Remix of old & familiar Uematsu tunes = Better.
- Feels that SEX could have release this a year back. But glad they sacrifice the piece of garbage that's CC to work on this. Kudos.
Well, since Cloud is really useful for Beginner Players (Good Fighter for Short Range with good use of Brave attack and Air Slashing Opponents), can't said much for Sephiroth..
BTW, since you have the Game, how's those 3 Install options? What's the difference? I heard it's between 200 and 500Mb
MakubeX2
2008-12-18, 17:26
BTW, since you have the Game, how's those 3 Install options? What's the difference? I heard it's between 200 and 500Mb
Shorten the load time and most importantly, the quality of your replay video depends on how much data you choose to install.
I'm only 3 hours into the game.
I can only say, Cosmos is the hottest FF female to date. Terra is very lovely as well.
Shadow Kira01
2008-12-18, 22:59
Shorten the load time and most importantly, the quality of your replay video depends on how much data you choose to install.
If you install 500mb, does it mean that video and audio tracks will be saved to the respective folder or it goes in the form of a save game? I have Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G., but I am not willing to free up space on my memory stick just to see what effect it does. I am curious, but to waste an hour, I sort of don't want to. As for the people who already installed the media for Dissidia, what do you find in the save game folder?
Iron Maw
2008-12-19, 00:18
Exdeath vs WoL:
YouTube - Dissidia: Exdeath vs. Warrior of Light (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkjuthUukcU)
Shantotto Gameplay:
YouTube - DISSIDIA: ?????? VS ?????? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ORycaWsxIA)
Gabranth Ex-Burst.
YouTube - Gabranth Ex Burst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSHkZm5U8wQ)
Gabranth's Moves (bear in mind he's only at Lv.1 at the moment)
YouTube - Gabranth Exhibition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G42uSHK-fO0)
Kana Futayo
2008-12-19, 02:17
Has anyone figured out how connect with a friend via multiplayer mode? Some instructions or a step-by-step screenshot will do. My friend is itching to have a match with me. :heh:
MakubeX2
2008-12-19, 08:22
If you install 500mb, does it mean that video and audio tracks will be saved to the respective folder or it goes in the form of a save game?
AVI in the video folder.
As for the people who already installed the media for Dissidia, what do you find in the save game folder?
There's a data file for the data and a respective folder for each of the save game.
And.....
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/719/1229648063593vy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Interesting angle.
Is it possible to get Cosmos ingame ecchi like this one? lol
From what I know, Terra is quickly gaining the title of 'Best Legs of Final Fantasy'.
Duo Maxwell
2008-12-19, 08:35
- Everyone since VII are too n00b friendly. I don't wish to see people spamming Cloud/Sephy or anyone after them online. Y'all hear ?
By n00b friendly, do you mean they are too strong or too easy to use?
MakubeX2
2008-12-19, 08:42
By n00b friendly, do you mean they are too strong or too easy to use?
Too easy. They can just basically use the same combo over and over to wear the opposition down. Now, a good character will be like Cecil where the player had to know where and when to utilize both version of him.
Iron Maw
2008-12-19, 15:08
The only people seem noob friendly are fast characters, like Zidane, Onion Knight and Tidus which tends to happen in most fighting games. From what I've heard Cloud isn't really great and Squall are hard link, and this not even getting the Villains here.
Terra, WoL and Bartz seem easy to use too.
More vids.
WoL vs Jecht
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr1sw70_llA&fmt=18
Onion Knight vs Zidane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd-_kL_y5NE&fmt=18
Firion vs WoL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3oPTMxcJJE
Cecil vs. Sephiroth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ePAtayV0Lk&feature=channel_page
Kuja vs Zidane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTK5ssXkwEs&fmt=18
Terra vs Bartz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqbQjW1kbJE&fmt=18
Golbez vs Firion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IktM6paT08s
WoL vs. The Emperor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbhbktzDDew&feature=channel_page
Squall vs. Kuja
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST_ZBVXUAVM
Zidane vs. Kefka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHUtE1QNeVg
Bartz vs Terra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqCE83HAFSA&fmt=18
Cloud vs Jecht
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=FtX6kfcbnIk&feature=related
Tidus vs Zidane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMHdbXGyhQ&fmt=18
Bartz vs Zidane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqCE83HAFSA&fmt=18
Squall vs Golbez, this probably the best Player versus CPU match so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB6C66LhxBs
I'm only 3 hours into the game.
I can only say, Cosmos is the hottest FF female to date. Terra is very lovely as well.
What about Cloud of Darkness. She has some hot reveling parts as well :D
Oh, and the opening CG intro for the game is awesome. Lets just say the video encompasses every Final Fantasy fan's dream :)
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/297527.html
Dark Wing
2008-12-20, 13:58
I so getting this game when it comes out in the states! :D
Also I found this nice fan made intro using Over by High and Mighty Color
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbPZwOTf_lw
MakubeX2
2008-12-20, 19:51
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/8411/1186690wd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The American release of the above toys will see the figure of Warrior Of Light missing from it's lineup. IMO, it's partly due to the fact that the average American gamer's knowledge of Final Fantasy starts from VII and up.
Von Himmel
2008-12-22, 02:45
What is the summon function in this game?
Well a Summon is activated automaticaly during the battle.
For Example if you are equipped of Bahamut, an Art of Bahamut will appear when your brave point will be break and it will recover each seconds 20 Brave Points.
Another example is Magic Pot after the opponent get a tons of Brave Points, The Magic Pot will copy the Brave Points of your opponent and will give it to you...
They are only useful to make easier some Fights
kenjiharima
2008-12-22, 11:17
The merchandise took off the SHOTACON look of Zidane. At least The WOL, Cloud, Squall and Tidus are great.
kk2extreme
2008-12-22, 18:24
zidane has the best personality of of all heros in ff history, and i think he is the only one that is a thief. Tidus is second and the best looking (great skin tone btw :D)imo, but too bad he has a father complex :heh:
Well Jecht is number one villian because of his GARness :p
anyways i cant wait for it to hit the US
OtseisRagnarok
2008-12-22, 18:47
zidane has the best personality of of all heros in ff history, and i think he is the only one that is a thief. Tidus is second and the best looking (great skin tone btw :D)imo, but too bad he has a father complex :heh:
Well, I like Squall's brooding personlity, but I agree that Zidane PWNS all.... He was the most likeable character in the series.
Well Jecht is number one villian because of his GARness :p
Yeah, he is the manliest FFcharacter to date. 'cept for that one chick in errr... was it 5? The one with Bartz. She was pretty manly. XD
Von Himmel
2008-12-23, 19:51
Yeah, he is the manliest FFcharacter to date. 'cept for that one chick in errr... was it 5? The one with Bartz. She was pretty manly. XD
Terra ? o.o;;
I tried to play this game. Man, it was really exciting xD;;
Still, because I don't really understand Japanese, I cannot set my move set and ability very well. It's hard to pwn some bosses with my limited ability :(
brightman
2008-12-23, 20:25
^Talking about Faris, I think...:heh:
MakubeX2
2008-12-24, 04:00
Is it me, or do most of the villians sucks at low level ?
Sephy is OK, but his Gokumon is annoying in stages without solid ground (which makes 95% of everything).
Cefka and Ultimecia lacks melee. Goddamn Emperor can't hit anything.
But Darth Vader clone Golbeza is a Godsend.
Kana Futayo
2008-12-24, 04:41
Is it me, or do most of the villians sucks at low level ?
Sephy is OK, but his Gokumon is annoying in stages without solid ground (which makes 95% of everything).
Cefka and Ultimecia lacks melee. Goddamn Emperor can't hit anything.
But Darth Vader clone Golbeza is a Godsend.
How good is Golbeza at high levels? :)
Eagerly waiting for a North-American release, the game seems very fun.
Terra seems efficient and very pretty. That's a plus. :)
Terra's really good, probably the most balanced spell caster. She can handle any range quite effectively.
Iron Maw
2008-12-24, 12:35
Is it me, or do most of the villians sucks at low level ?
Sephy is OK, but his Gokumon is annoying in stages without solid ground (which makes 95% of everything).
Cefka and Ultimecia lacks melee. Goddamn Emperor can't hit anything.
But Darth Vader clone Golbeza is a Godsend.
Generally, quite a few of characters suck at low levels. Squall, is crappy at lv. 1 because his HP attack that he starts with, or so I've heard. They all get better except maybe Ultimecia. But most Mages require a different playstyle than short-ranged fighters.
BTW, I hear Jecht's REALLY powerful in the game.
Actually, most of the Character suck at low levels because they haven't unlocked new skills, techniques and ability that made me more difficult to beat... It's included the Enemy Level.
Arrived on Level 30, Characters begins to get some useful Skills to set...
Most of the Vilains aren't really suck, most of them are just Mage-type : Ultimecia, Kefka and Kuja (etc.)
Jecht, Garland and the others are more Close-type Character.
Actually this game works like normal fighting games in the sense that each character has a style of their own. Each player has their own style of playing and will find some suited to theirs and others not.
If you're a player who likes fast chopping action and combos, you get a melee character. You may find range and trapping characters extremely hard to use.
Plus, the customisation in this game is extremely complex, unless the character's style suits you well, you won't get the best out of the character.BTW, I hear Jecht's REALLY powerful in the game.Yea, kids check under their beds for the Bogeyman, the Bogeyman check under his for Chuck Norris and Chuck Norris checks under his for Jecht.
Jecht has apparently took over Chuck Norris.
I want people to watch some of my videos from this game.
Enjoy watching :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/RDF2050 :)
One of my Videos Enjoy :)
MY CLOUD LV 100
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Actually, most of the Character suck at low levels because they haven't unlocked new skills, techniques and ability that made me more difficult to beat... It's included the Enemy Level.
Arrived on Level 30, Characters begins to get some useful Skills to set...
Most of the Vilains aren't really suck, most of them are just Mage-type : Ultimecia, Kefka and Kuja (etc.)
Jecht, Garland and the others are more Close-type Character.
It is call a combo with the 0 + [] which make the character increase and kill faster the enemy :)
I I have my Cloud LV 100 and he owned :)
AnimeTheme
2008-12-26, 05:17
How do you unlock those villain characters for use? They are not unlocked for me yet, though I am just a few hours into the game.
How do you unlock those villain characters for use? They are not unlocked for me yet, though I am just a few hours into the game.Play through the story modes with each character to unlock their villians in the PP shop. Each character is 300 PP to unlock.
How do you unlock those villain characters for use? They are not unlocked for me yet, though I am just a few hours into the game.
First you must pass the story mode and then go to Treasury which is 4 columm of the main menu. Each character cost 300 PP [Player Points] and after you unlock everyone then you can add costums cloth like CLoud Advent Children Cloth :) .
MakubeX2
2008-12-26, 18:18
Play through the story modes with each character to unlock their villians in the PP shop. Each character is 300 PP to unlock.
Which version of the game have you been playing ? The Villians are avalible from the start and they cost 500 PP each on my copy.
Which version of the game have you been playing ? The Villians are avalible from the start and they cost 500 PP each on my copy.
JEJE That's what i saw first but later it turn out to cost more let me check this out to confirmed if you are right.
I have both the UMD and a MS copy.
LOL I think I messed up totally, I think my 300 PP is for the 'Another Form' of the villians, which is also not unlocked by clearing any Story modes. I must be drowsy when I typed that, an entire week of Dissidia must have messed up my mind.
So yes the Villians are available straight from the start for 500 PP, their 'Another Forms' are available for 300 PP after you unlocked them.
MakubeX2
2008-12-28, 03:39
Xlink kai does not work seem to work too well with this game.
So far, the only option for optimise performance online is to link up your PSP with a PS3 (http://dissidia-online.blogspot.com)
So any forum wide brawl one of these days ? At least for those that had this game and yet invested in a PS3 ?
Justice Knight
2008-12-29, 11:18
i manage to find the soundtrack but it doesnt have the full length music for the opening? i mean the back ground music for this http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia/
Xlink kai does not work seem to work too well with this game.
So far, the only option for optimise performance online is to link up your PSP with a PS3 (http://dissidia-online.blogspot.com)
So any forum wide brawl one of these days ? At least for those that had this game and yet invested in a PS3 ?
you can play online with the PS3?
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